Lightforce 240 Blitz on Nissan Bar

Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:29
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I am about to buy a set of Light Force 240 Blitz's and i have checked the Measurements and they appear to be able to fit.

I am just wondering if any one has put these on a GU Patrol Genuine Nissan Steel Bullbar before?

Alan
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:03

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:03
Best bet would be to go to a supplier of the Lightforce units and ask them to take one out to your truck (in the carpark presumably!!!) and check to see that it will fit. Nissan don't make bullbars......I think the ones they fit are made by TJM. If the Blitz don't fit, I reckon there's a fair chance the XGT will fit...(same light, but in a different shaped body). In some ways I reckon the XGT might be better.....if you can secure the main mounting bolt with a padlock or similar locking device, there is no easy way the thieves can knock them off.
However, as I recently found out, the Blitz have 3 places where they are vulnerable to light-fingered mongrels.
(a) they can unscrew the main lense simply by rotating it anticlockwise; takes about 15 seconds and requires no tools whatsoever!!!!
(b) they can then unbolt the horizontal bolt that attaches the base plate to the stem that holds the globe....this requires 2 spanners, there is a nyloc nut
(c) they can then remove the base plate from the bullbar unless you've put a lock on it.

Problem is, that even if you padlock the main bolt, they probably won't see that you've done that until after they've unscrewed the large reflector assembly. So what do you think they'll do at that point??? Screw the body back on and go away satisfied??? not likely!!!! They'll flog your main body unit and chuck it away or sell it.

Good luck

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:39

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:39
Now i know how the steal them lol.... and what tools to take..

Sorry Roachie

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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:43

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:43
Still got mine after 3 or 4 years..... Crazie - stay away!!

;)

Seriously - I park mine with the bull bar hard up against a wall so you can't see the lights from either side or behind. I reckon that's the only reason I still have them!

It'd kill me if they were knicked. They're the best ting I've bought in years.
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Follow Up By: simple - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:08

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:08
i meant to put my follow up after these ones, so see it below.
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Reply By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:13

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 10:13
As you can see in my rig picture, i have fitted 240 Lightforce to an ARB steel bar which is your Nissan jobbie but they are XGT's and i had to redrill the mounting holes just a little more forward that standard and they fit great...
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Follow Up By: simple - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:06

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 13:06
my XGT's fit on the nissan oe steel bar without any mods.

and roachie. the XGT's have a single bolt with nylock nut holding the light body onto the base aswell. so its just as easily stolen as the blitz.
anybody found a way to overcome that one?
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Follow Up By: Nick R - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:07

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:07
Simple,
JohnR came up with a solution.
He made a bracket for the light to bolt to which had plate either side of the bolt with nylock nut. the bolt is still accessable with tools but you physically can't undo the bolt all the way unless you undo the bottom bolt which is now extremely difficult to get to inside the bracket. removal of the bracket is also difficult with bolts and cotter pins holding it in place. Really it is simpler than my explanation. they are XGTs (I think) bolted to a GU
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Reply By: Col_and_Jan - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:05

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:05
I know that the Lightforce 240s are great lights, but with the comments about light fingers being attracted to them as quickly as moths, are the nite Stalker 225 lights a viable option?- they are half the price and the brand has been given a good wrap. I dont want to attract attention of the light fingered brigade, but I want some good lights.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:04

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:04
Col,
I had had my 1st set of Blitz for about 4 years and was just in the wrong place (Narrandera, NSW....my old home town) at the wrong time....(it was a rainy night and my mother was in the process of leaving this good ol' earth forever over in the Wagga Base Hospital).
Some arzehole decided that he needed my lights more than I did during the night on 18/6. At 6am my brother phoned from Wagga (it had been his "turn" to sit vigil overnight while the rest of us tried to get some shut-eye), to let us know she'd gone. We drove the hour over to Wagga and it wasn't until I was on my way back that I noticed that I couldn't see the top of the lights (which used to poke up slightly above the top of the bullbar). Bastards!!! I thought to myself.
I have bought a new set and I fully "expect" to keep them for a bloody long time. My brother is the local barber in Narrandera and he heard on the grapevine of the name of the bloke that had knocked them off. I told the cops and they reckon they went and interviewed him. He could not look the copper in the eye while they talked and simply denied any knowledge. No further action!!!
Anyway, I'd still recommend the Lightforce; especially if you can keep the rig parked up towards a wall etc most of the time.
Roachie
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:35

Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 22:35
Roachie makes a good point about how easy it is to steal these lights and after him actually personally demonstrating this I would be reluctant to part with the cash for some.

Granted most lights can probably be knocked off without too much effort but these things were just toooooo easy! Roachie may have let the cat out the bag (so to speak) but I doubt any of these lowlifes need much encouragement.

Am I being cynical in thinking the Lightforce do not spend too many of the development dollars on security of the lights as it ultimately helps sales??

Those that cannot afford them steal them. Those that can afford them buy them, and buy them again, and maybe even get the insurance company to buy some more!

C'mon Lightforce (and others), how about designing them to be a bit more secure? Great lights by all accounts but as a city resident I cannot trust that they will still be there when I venture out on the country roads.

Any thoughts?

Muddy
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Reply By: muzzgit (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 00:36

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 00:36
This is the main reason I havn't bought them. I have Cibie Oscars at the moment but find them a bit lacking.

I am considering the Hella 4000
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:46

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:46
Thanks all,

I had a look at them last night and tried them on the bar. They do fit, although they might need a 2mm washer under the mounting bracket to give a bit more height. The bottom of the lense comes close to the bar, by raising the barcket will give more down angle if needed.

Looking at the security aspects you can get a set of lock nuts for the main bolts that secure them to the bar. And these are like the mag wheel lock nuts rounded with a set of holes in a pattern with a corresponding socket to fit. This along with the fact that the access under the bar is difficult would slow down the light fingered Brigade.

The other weakness is the horizontal bolt that holds the upright to the base, although NICK R's post gave me an idea. All you need is to place between the bar and the base 2 pieces of thin angle steel that is secured under the base and up each side and covers the head of the bolt and the nut. This way the bolt cant be removed unless the main securing bolts are removed. I didn't look to closely at the joint but it may be that only 1 piece of angle would be required just to cover the bolt head so it cant be slid out.

The lense does unscrew to gain access to the globe. But all lights that i have looked at have some sort of easy method of openning the hosuing to change a globe.

I did ask the man in the shop regarding theft and according to him you actually cant buy the base and upright seperately so if some one stole the top section it is no use to them. I have no idea if tis is correct or not.

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