Communication Options
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:02
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Wisepac
My wife and I are about to caravan Aus for 2 years and will not be wandering too far into the wildnerness.
We have the usual mobile phones and lap top and regularly need internet/email accesss and would be interested in recommendations of what are best options- based on experiences.
Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:34
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:34
Well, you have what you need, what more do you want?
If you are not wandering too far off the beaten track there is always the Telstra Phone Box in most towns should the Mobile not work. Best get a CDMA phone which has better coverage than the GSM network.
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Reply By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:57
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 18:57
For Internet access on the laptop you have two main options. You can take it into the numerous internet cafes that are out there. You can just plug into their network in many of them or you can use their computers. Public Libraries are also good.
The alternative is to get a dedicated CDMA computer modem from Telstra called a "Minimax". This costs $49 a month and gives you 20 hours of wireless internet access a month. Works in most
places that a CDMA phone will work and is great for just doing emails and online banking.
There are other models/plans/providers and this field is about to boom but that is one example. For info just look on Telstra website.
I have one of these and it works great. So easy to use and totally secure (you are not risking having your banking details skimmed and some dodgy little internet cafe!)
I also have a CDMA mobile phone and could hook that onto the laptop but it is tricky to do and you still need to subscribe to a data plan so you may as
well get a dedicated service.
Check it out.
Muddy
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Reply By: Wisepac - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:33
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:33
Thanks Muddy- appreciate your info
Wisepac
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Reply By: Ray Bates - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:56
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 19:56
Hi I have just come back off holiday. I took my laptop to keep in touch via my mobile phone. My advise to you is don't do what I did as I finished up with a very high phone bill. It is much cheaper to go to a internet cafe or libray
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Follow Up By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 20:19
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 20:19
Yes, That can be a real trap when using your regular mobile to do data calls.
That is why I advised the dedicated data service above. Much easier to control costs. Stick to Plan hours and it is pretty easy to budget for it.
Telstra or the other telcos really do not mind if u run up a huge data phone bill! And working out data call costs on a regular mobile phone can be very frustrating.
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Reply By: Col_and_Jan - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 20:48
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 20:48
Its a pity that the speed of the minimax using standard CDMA connection is so slow - not much better that dial-up. Otherwise it would be a good alternative for even home use where ADSL etc is not available. Maybe with time it may get better.
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Follow Up By: Muddy 'doe (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:35
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:35
Depends where you are.
In Capital cities it connects to something called EV-DO (a "flovour" of CDMA) which delivers up to 600kbps (about 10 times dial up).
Outside those areas it uses the 1x part of the CDMA network and is comparable to dial up but depending on signal strength can be very slow (think 9.6kbps).
Still - better than strapping a note to the leg of a pigeon or sending smoke signals!
You are correct in saying it will get better with time. The minimax is still an early product in this field and is better that the first attempts such as the Sierra Aircard that went in the PCMCIA port. Telstra have withdrwn this product as it was tricky to install and keep going resulting in lots of frustrated customers calling the help lines.
There should be heaps of new products out soon for wireless longer range internet from providers like 3 and Unwired. Just look at the political bunfight at the moment about the sale of Telstra and
services in the bush. At the moment the minimax is about the best value and easy to use but expect that to change!
Cheers
Muddy
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Follow Up By: AdrianLR - Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:49
Tuesday, Aug 16, 2005 at 21:49
If your laptop has wifi then the 49.95 includes access through wifi hotspots
places like McDonalds in capital cities. Telstra is already doing corporate deals where you don't need to
sign up for a long term contract (currently 2 years to get the Minimax for free) and if you don't continue the service you simply hand back the modem.
You'll need to plan your connections so that you use the full 15 minute blocks rather than connect, send an email, read a new one, compose the reply and then find that you're sending it 16 minutes after you connected - using up 2 blocks of connection. 20 hours isn't that much if you surf the web. It's cheaper to do that sort of thing at an internet cafe.
I long to have your problem!
Adrian
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Follow Up By: Col_and_Jan - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 18:27
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 18:27
Thanks Muddy,
I have been interested in both the aircard, and now the minmax. Your comments are much appreciated. I wasnt aware of the problems with the aircard, and prefer the minmax as it suits our purposes when travelling in the caravan (better reception as modem can be outside van on usb lead).
Have tried using the
Maroochydore Library for email etc when we are on holidays up that way. The only problem is that it is quite busy, and often you have to book a couple of days in advance.
The minimax would be great for up there, as we can use it at the caravan site, or pop into the wireless sites to use the (wifi) laptop. Just disappointed that the speed slows so much in county areas, especially with a limit of 20 hours per month in 15 minute blocks.
But like you said, better than carrier pidgeon and smoke signals, and safer that internet cafes for banking etc.
Col
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Follow Up By: AdrianLR - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 21:25
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 21:25
Col/Muddy
The Aircard is available again with new firmware & allegedly none of the initial problems. You can get an external aerial for it from a company called Wincom. There is also an option to go onto a plan that has 2OO MB or 500 MB per month. I'm organising 15 units for work and it's been a frustrating process getting a consistent answer about packages from Telstra and its dealers. If all goes
well I can let you know how it goes over the next couple of weeks.
Adrian
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:16
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:16
If the plan is to stary 90% on main roads, a UHF plus a quality CDMA should fit the bill for comms. Kyocera CDMA models for example are
well spoken of on this
forum - out-perform other brands with regard to holding calls it seems. As for email, the cheapest option is to tap into the Internet Cafe's (libraries even better) for email. Another though is to use a satphone - some models/plans have FREE incoming emails to both you and the sender ! Outgoings cost about a dollar a pop though. If your safety comms were based on satphone, this factor is a bonus.
HF radio can support all of the above too, but that's another story.
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Reply By: Member - GeeTee (NT) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:21
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 09:21
For keeping in touch via email you can't go past PocketMail. Recently signed up and used it on a 5 week trip to Canada and it worked flawlessly. You can call from a payphone anywhere. I will be using it again when we take off for our annual W.A. trip. Check it out.
GeeTee
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Reply By: atoyot - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 22:02
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 22:02
We used a Pocketmail device for email (no attachments) for basic email and it was great as you can use just about any phone.
Pocketmail
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