Solar energy total per day

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 18:25
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Hi there,

Is there any way to measure, or get a total of how many AMPS you get in a day from your solar panels?

Consider: You have say, a 20Amp regulator with 2*80w solar panels directly facing North.

Knowing that the AMPS input is per hour, and that the angle (position of the panels [fixed]), of the sun dictates the aperage into/from the panels.

Most solar regulators start when a current is recieved at Sunrise (after night, the battery voltage is lower, so the Regulator cuts in).
At Sunset, the Regulator will cut out (after recieving no power [My system is 20minutes]).

So therefore, Is there anyway to know how many AMPs you recieved in total from when the Regulator cuts in, to when the Regulator cuts out?

It's obviously measureable by the Ampmeter ( I have a JayCar 20Amp meter),so the 'power' going into it shows you how many AMPS ph you are getting at that 'moment in time', but how do tally a total over a 24 period?

So on a given day, sunny, overcast, bright periods etc, you knew what you actually got?

This has to be a good question, surely?

Alan.

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Reply By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 18:34

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 18:34
Some Solar Regulators like the Plasmatronics PL20, PL40, PL60 and some of the Morning Star series can display the total A/H in and A/H out.
These units can provide a pretty good indication of the state of charge ( SOC ).

As you have determined it is not easy with a regular multimeter to actually determine the total number of A/H in or out.

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Follow Up By: BenSpoon - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:19

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:19
Have used the Plasmatronics PL60 in a few installations and its great- Data logging for 30 days showing amps in and out of the batteries, system voltage, panel voltage and condition, adjustible presets for different battery types and capacities...
The 60 is perhaps overkill for just a recreational offroad setup (30A charge/60A load), but I've never had problems with this brand, and its dead easy to install.
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Reply By: Banjo - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 19:57

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 19:57
I have a Plasmatronic and as already mentioned it gives you those statistics, and you can review the previous 10 days or so too. Also gives battery voltage and the current amps being used by whatever appliances you have switched on.
This confirmed to me that the Engel (before it was stolen) was using the claimed 2.4 amps. A fluoro light claimed to use 1 amp, only used .8
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Reply By: Member - Brian (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 20:48

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 20:48
HI Also SECA will tell all of that, Found it good when out bush and only relying
on solar. cheers brian
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:52

Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:52
And the Steca LCD screen is easier to read... :-)
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 00:14

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 00:14
As said above there are many devices that can measure the amp in and out.
I have one fitted into my van and it works great.
It should be noted that if a batt is nearly charged the solar panel will not put much in as the regulator takes over and reduces input, indeed as the batt comes up the resistance to charge input increases therefore exqact input for the day is subject to the batt condition.

Simple equasion although not dead accurate is to divide panel wattage by 12 then deduct 25% from total and mutiply by sunlight hours should give a rough estimate.
EG. 60watt panel by 12 = 5amps - 25% = 4amps multiplied by 6hrs would give approx 24amp hrs per day.

This will probably start an argument but I have used these figures for some time and according to my inbuilt meter about right.

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Reply By: Alloy c/t - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:42

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:42
Steca 2020 $249 from Springers 12volt shop www.spingers.com.au
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Follow Up By: CubCamperMan - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:55

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:55
top dollar over the top retail
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 15:36

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 15:36
Well CCM, have to agree with you about the price!
should be able to get them a closer to $200, I can only comment onthe price here in WA and I expect to pay a tad more than the Eastern states, but I have the benifit of living here to more than compensate for it.

The advanced technology of the Steca with the easy to read, large LCD screen is beyong reproach....
BP Solar are rebranding and selling them.
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Reply By: Alan Southport QLD - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:38

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:38
Thanks for he info people.

Looks like to Plasmatronic PL range is going to be what i need.

Might go for a PL60 as i only have about 20 so far and probably need a good 40, and if any more panels come my way, i'll add them on :)

Anyone know where to get them around the Gold Coast area?

Thanks for all your help people.

Alan.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 18:44

Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 18:44
Allan
compare the Steca -> http://tinyurl.com/ccxzz ~$235 ??
with the plasmatronic ~$330

Please explain to me why you believe the Plasmatronic is better ?

Are you inferring you presently have 20 Amps, about 4 x 100 Wt panels?
and you will probably need a good 40 Amps ??

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Follow Up By: CubCamperMan - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:59

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 08:59
to many plasmatronics failure
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Reply By: Alan Southport QLD - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 19:38

Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 19:38
Ok.

I get the msg about the quality of the Plasmatronics unit.

I would like to say that the web site from Cubcamperman, was really just what i needed without going to the expense of buying a unit to do it for me.

I assume that the site is an average, which is all i realy needed to gauge what i might need.

Mainey, if you read the reply post again, i said that i have about 20, but would like to have good 40 [And then i say that i will add more panels if they come my way]. Meaning that 40 will be nice, but buying a 40amp Plas, would mean that i would have to et hold hold of a 60, if i got 2 or 3 more panels!

That's why i said that i would better off getting a 60, when i know i need a 40 - but hey! If you got some extra panels for 'cheap', what are you gong to do then?

As mentioned i think that Cubcamperman, has given me the best option i can get for this time.

So thanks very much guys and gals.
Really nice place to have a chat from, obvioulsy very experienced people. My own interest is in solar power - but who better to ask than the people who live it!

Just before i go. I did have a great oppertunity (sppeling is wroong), a number of times to go into the Blue Mountains of NSW, in a 6WD German Pinschauer (don't flame for the spelling).

We would arrive at a point whereby the Nissan Patrols and others were trying to get up a rise. We would drive up and they would all move 'gracefully' to the side to allow us through.
Rod the driver, would 'sadiscticaly', with a smile on his face, and half way up - where everything else would start to slide back down - would stop and ask "How are things today?" - with 6 people and all the tents and luggage on board. Then just chug up the hill, everyone looking with dropped jaws.

I think that Rod, Avalon, NSW, would know abot this forum by now.

I wish him and Danny the best, and hope that are all ok.

So once again, thanks for everyone for helping here.

Alan.

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