hf antenna
Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 22:55
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warthog
I recently bought a 2nd hand Barrett 250 from work and although it was only $100 I probably should have asked this before I bought it. Are they a useful unit? I intend using vks 737 and wish to know if it is worthwhile getting the old beast installed before I go ahead and pay someone to do it. I was told a new "taped whip" with RFDS and vks737 frequencies would cost about $500, 5 x what I paid for the radio, is this an accurate figure? Cheers
Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:22
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:22
Best way to look at it is that for $600- you've got yourself (hopefully) a good radio for your remote travel.....like an insurance policy.....and great entertainment too (listening to all those other lucky buggars all over the countryside as they report in during the skeds.
I don't believe the RFDS channels are really necessary........if you've got the VKS737 channels, you can soon be in touch and summon help via that network. So a tapped whip with less taps could be a cheaper option.
Good luck
Roachie (whiskey 622)
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Follow Up By: warthog - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:24
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:24
Thanks Roachie, now I'll be able to go into the store and ask for the antenna by the correct name. I was wondering why the bloke in the store was looking at me funny when I asked for a taped whip.
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Reply By: joc45 - Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:49
Wednesday, Aug 17, 2005 at 23:49
Check the Terlin website; they sometimes have s/h tapped antennas for sale. Even brand new, they have ready-made generic ones which cover a range of rfds and VKS737 frequ's for a better price than custom-made.
Terlin
Gerry
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Reply By: Brad G (SA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 00:31
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 00:31
Hi
Before you head of have the unit checked by a credible radio store, one that only deals in communication equipment, they will tell you firstly whether the unit works and secondly whether it has the correct channels fitted for VKS-737, RFDS and others. Also talk to them about selcall & telcall fitment options, generally you will need selcall to contact a VKS-737 after sunset although with luck someone out there may be listening. Check out these sites and they will answer a lot of questions.
Cheers Brad
VKS-737 Website
Radtel Website
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Reply By: Member - Luxoluk - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:19
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 07:19
I would happily refund your money if you loose interest!! Cheers
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:51
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 08:51
You can just use it just for VKS-737; And the frequencies that are most useful are 8022 followed by 5455. With just those two frequencies you have a very useful set.
Another option for an antenna is to get the "SuperRod". Its a 9metre long extendable fibreglass fishing rod which has 8.88metres of wire up the middle. If you use that as an aerial it will perform better than any other aerial bar none - the length is the tuned length for 8022, but it seems to work fine on 5455 as
well. Takes less than a minute to set up and dismantle. I find that it will transmit beautifully to base stations when everyone else might be struggling.
Electric Bug in
Adelaide have them for something under $300, or you can attempt to make something similar.
I have the current model Barrett 950 with umpteen frequencies tuned in, and all the other stuff is fun (listen to football, weather etc) but not really necessary.
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Reply By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:16
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 09:16
The old 250 is what iv'e got , nothing wrong with it .
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 10:15
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 10:15
Hi Errol,
This is off topic, but !
How did you get a GU Patrol Extra Cab.
Did you have it custom made or did nissan actually produce them ?
I am looking for something like this for my next project.
Regards,
Mark
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Follow Up By: Member - Errol (York WA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 19:19
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 19:19
G,Day Mark . Just happend to find it in a car yard when we went looking after we broke the Rodeo . It was a road pilots ride befor that . No , Nissan dos'e not make them as standard . It's what is called a cut and shut . I belive it costes around 8 to 9 thousand . Cheers Errol
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 16:43
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 16:43
Cheers Errol,
Explains why I have not seen another one around, although I did see a 6 wheeler around here last week.
Regards,
Mark
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Reply By: warthog - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:20
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:20
Thanks for the replies fellas, plenty of good info that teaches me what to look for in antennae. You have expanded my almost non-existant knowledge of HF considerably.
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:25
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 13:25
Yep - in case the following was not emphasised I think its possible to buy a used radio, that needs new frequencies installed, plus a tap antenna, that could all add up to a lot more than you'd pay for a whole, used, running setup. And ........ some of the early systems using tapped antennas are great performers - much better (for voice only) than the modern machines.
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Reply By: VK3CAT - Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 18:12
Thursday, Aug 18, 2005 at 18:12
For an alternative to the terlin Taped HF whip, check out the HF antennas produced by the Frankston and Mornington Peninsular Amateur Radio Club (FAMPARC). Available for VKS737 & amateur HF bands, these antennas work a treat and are much much cheaper than the commercialy produced HF whips. A mounting base will also be required.
I have absolutely no vested interest with FAMPARC and I am not a club member.
http://www.qsl.net/vk3frc/ and follow the links.
Cheers Tony.
http://www.qsl.net/vk3cat
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 01:00
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 01:00
Just what I was going to say....
Best value around.
Dave
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Follow Up By: warthog - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 03:15
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 03:15
Will look into it thanks fellas
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 16:27
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 16:27
The very thin enamel wire on
mine fractured about 2 cm from the base, too much whipping around in the bush I expect. I soldered it up, applied more heatshrink and it's as good as new but I now use it with a spring, however I agree....good value
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Reply By: atoyot - Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 21:36
Friday, Aug 19, 2005 at 21:36
I've been through the same thing with a few Barrett 250's. I got a ROM file from Barrett installed by a radio tech (just overwrites an EPROM chip), then I got the chip copied for the other sets. Now they all have VKS737 channels and the most commonly used other channels recommended by Barrett. I have a few chips left over, if you're interested.
Also, I've also been told that you can program the channels by changing a jumper (J3) on the remote head controller board. My manual says that it is a "reserved" jumper. I'm not recommending that you try it, but someone might have more info on this. I also understand that they have small batteries soldered on one of the main boards, and if you program your own channels, then you might need to get the batteries replaced. I'm not sure how, if at all, this affects the channels that are written to the EPROM. I saved money and carefully installed it myself (after lots of reading, running all the cables as recommended) and haven't had a problem
regards
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Follow Up By: warthog - Saturday, Aug 20, 2005 at 02:16
Saturday, Aug 20, 2005 at 02:16
Mate, it sounds like you are far more advanced in your knowledge of HF and electrickery than me. I have no idea what a ROM file, EPROM chip or jumper is. I'll have to get a radio tech to do all the freq stuff and fitting/testing for me. Thanks.
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