GU patrol on LPG
Submitted: Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 21:06
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CRAFT
Hi,
I am looking to purchase a GU patrol and possibly convert it to LPG. Does anybody have any experience or know of someone that has done this? Just wondering what if any problems short or long term this has caused and would you recommend it? Is it worth it or are they economical enough and how much power do they lose?
Thanks
Reply By: Member. Rob M (QLD) - Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 21:24
Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 21:24
Craft,
I have had 2 GQ's on gas in the past and was quite happy with them overall but the price to convert my 4500 GU was too high to make it a worthwhile investment when I originally purchased it in '97. I was told when updating to my current vehicle that Nissan did not recommend a gas conversion on the 4800.
Regards Rob
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Reply By: ACDC - Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 21:35
Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 21:35
LPG is for cooking chops and sausages!
Wear out your motor quicker cause more problems than its worth.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matthew L (NSW) - Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 22:05
Tuesday, Aug 23, 2005 at 22:05
How do you explain all the cabs with 800000 klm on them
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Follow Up By: Boc1971 - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:38
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 11:38
And my Totota Hiace work van that weighs in at 2 tonnes(loaded with
tools parts ect ) with a 2.4 litre engine with over 300 000 Km on it -- does not blow smoke - use oil and gets used and abused like a work vehicle.
care to explain how the lpg has caused excessive wear ? perhaps lack of carbon in top end of motor that petrol produces to 'lubricate' the valve faces???
Frank
P.s My work van is in excellent working condition running ONLY on LPG for the past 3 years
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 19:19
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 19:19
With you ac/dc gas increases alrady high fuel consumption and isnt available in the alot of
places and if it is it is damn dear even here in kal it is 65+ cents a litre it would take quite a while to get your 3k + back which is why gas vehicles are rare as rocking horse do do outside of the city
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:52
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 09:52
I know a few guys that have recently changed over to LPG on their GU's.
Both converts are extremely happy , that another mate , and myself , are consdiering doing the same to ours.
I SHOULD have bought a dual fuel to start with . .. doppy bugger.
During my research , the 4.5 Patrols are almost built to Run on LPG. Nothing needs to be done to them.
I have NEVER heard of anyone having major issues with LPG on the GU's.
The problems I have heard about are , reduced range. Not surprising , but can be fixed to a large degree with a larger Petrol
Tank (change the sub to a 85l).
Reduced ground clearance. Small lift , 50mm often fixes that.
Reduced power , One guy said he didn't notice ANY difference in power between LPG and Petrol, the other guy has a Unichip fitted anyway.
Fuel economy on LPG is approx 1/3 more then Petrol , so you need to do all your figures to see if its worthwhile for your use.
I believe you need to do over 20,000 k's per year , to break even in approx 2 years.
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Reply By: ACDC - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 16:41
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 16:41
The reason cabs do so
well is they are driven constantly almost 24 hours a day and are always up to temperature.
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Reply By: gqpat - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 20:59
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 20:59
As a gas fitter GU patrols are excellent on lpg Prop one of the best vehicles to convert just fit proper LPG ignition leads to stop back firing and it will run like a dream price on conversion should be around 2200-2400 using impco system .
Are great to install as you use orig guage and sub
tank switch as lpg/petrol swith there are no guages or switches added it looks great..
Contact Lakeside auto in
Melbourne if from vic 9460-5630
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Reply By: CRAFT - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 21:57
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 21:57
Thanks very much for all the responses. It seems it is ok to do and as I test drove a GU today that could be a go it looks like I will be doing this sooner rather than later.
gqpat,
Are there any long term issues with the gas? and how often should you run petrol through it?
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Reply By: arthurking83 - Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 23:12
Wednesday, Aug 24, 2005 at 23:12
99.9% guarrantee after 200,000 klms on gas you WILL have burned/ressessed valves.
cabs are bought for their respective cheapness!
Not longevity or performance!
An uncle(in Greece) says they buy merc diesels as cabs there because they will go for 1milllion klms (his has 700,000klms), and also because they are cheaper
After 400-500k klms the cab will be retired.
That's about the time the valves will have burned through!
Poor sod that has to fix that, and put up with the vinyl floor!
Cabs aren't without their fair share of problems, mainly overheating(due no doubt to the gas conversion!)
If the valve operation in the Nissan is hydraulic, not by shim or locknut, you may never notice it until it's time to do the hydraulic adjusters too. $$$
I dunno nuthin' about Patrols, except my mechanic has an MQ on gas, and it burned its valves, and my 98 Rodeo is burning them out too.
I've done 240k Klms since the conversion (LPGas1, standard Holden type), it needs the (shim) valves to be adjusted everyr 5-10k Klms, and if not it drives like a bucket of bleep .
I can assure you that if diesel was as cheap as LPgas, all cabs would be diesels!
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Reply By: RE - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:45
Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 12:45
I have had a gu patrol 4500 on ga for almost 2 years now.
It was already converted when i purchased it.
So far have done close to 40000k without any dramas.
range is an issue due to supply of gas but anywhere on major roads you wont have any problems getting gas.
so far with the small amount of off road stuff I have done clearance hasnt been a problem and paying 40 cents a litre compared to 1.26 a litre makes a difference
Evan
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