Using your mobile with the laptop to connect to the net while travelling

Submitted: Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 19:49
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We are planning to do a few 'short' trips in the next few years and want to keep connected to friends and family through the internet and emails. We have a cdma mobile phone that gets great reception in Cape York so hope this will work for us. We want to connect to the net using the laptop and the mobile phone. I can get a plan of 1mb for $15 or 2mb for $25 for a month which sounds reasonable - trouble is, how on earth do I figure out how much I would use?? Does anyone out there do this and if you do, what would 1/2 an hour to an hour or so of surfing the net and sending emails amount to in the way of kilobytes or mbs. All sounds like rocket science but I suppose people do this - would love to hear from anyone who does.
Cheers, Charlie
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Reply By: Ray Bates - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 19:58

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 19:58
Hi don't even think about using your laptop with your mobile phone. It is VERY expencive and not very efficient.
I have just got back from a trip and did what you are proposing. Did I get a shock when I got my phone bill.
I would suggest that you go into internet cafes or the local public library. Much cheeper
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Reply By: Charlie & Rosemary - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:01

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:01
Thanks for your reply Ray - were you on a data plan or just dialed up as a casual user?
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:16

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:16
Giday,
With the same settup as u , due to cost as mentioned above,I have decided to give the 'testra' usb broadband modem a go, $49 mth. From wot I have heard, that is most prob. enough capacity for AVERAGE use.
Hope this helps... cya.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:22

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:22
sorry ,'telstra'' modem
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Reply By: LIGAF - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:21

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:21
Telstra gouge and rip you off like you could never believe
Telstra are absolute disgusting thieves compared to Vodafone and Optus but you are stuck with Telstra because of the vast CDMA coverage and the no limit compared to GSM of 36km from the tower.
Telstra insist on 12 month contracts for their plans of $29.95 for 10 hours, but the thieves at Telstra charge you in 15 minute blocks. You cannot dialup for 2 minutes and get and send your email as Telstra charge you for 15 minutes
For $49.95 you can get unlimited internet wit Vodafone and while Vodafone do not have the coverage of Telstra CDMA it is not to much drama to consult the coverage maps for Vodafone and find where the signal is. With Vodafone there are no contracts and you can jump on and off per month as you like. You can use a standard GSM phone with built in GPRS or buy a PCMICA card. Optus are hopeless to useless and you cannot get any joy from them at all. I phoned them up and the person on the phone had no idea about anything
I get to hate Telstra with a passion more each day they are such a gouging ripoff disgusting company that penalises rural and country Australians
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Follow Up By: Member - Bill F (VIC) - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:32

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:32
DEAR LIGIF

What are you trying to say

Would you buy a $100.00 Generator or a $1000.00 Generator

You get what you pay

Please pay for the best you can, I hate cheap $hit or suppliers making me buy a replacement or changing suppliers

You can always get CHEAPER at the expence of the service standards that were common and expected in the past

You put up with the cost of QUALITY or shutup about the bargain you thought you got

Any company the can sell (or rip you off) a cheaper product or service can only do so by making the product a poor copy of the origional or thinner or not as durable or not QUITE as safe (do you buy rated or non rated schackles)

When was the last time you used non rated shackles.
When will be the last time you use them

Bill
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Follow Up By: LIGAF - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:27

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:27
Bill are you feeling ok
think you replied to the wrong post or imbibed in to many wines
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Reply By: Charlie & Rosemary - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:22

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:22
OK, for $55 a month (and I would only need the occasional month) I can get 5mb so will give that a go and see how I fare with the bill! Thanks!!
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Reply By: Seaking - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:44

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 20:44
I use the telstra Data Pack plan (kilobyte charging) rather than the PC pack ( Timed charging and on the last trip I used the internet every day for emailing, surfing around and downloading end of day stock data and running my live trading screen . Over the three weeks I managed to use up 120Mb of my @200Mb allowance ( $99/Month Plan) and whwn I came home I rang Telstra and had them put me back to the $5/ Month plan. I go away again next week and will get them to jack it up again. There are no plans, no contracts and the speeds are about two to three times faster than normal dialup on a 56K modem. With the Data pack you can stay connected and as long as you are not doing anything on your computer it will stay in a dorment state until you open a site or check email. You can also still recieve phone calls while your phone/modem is connected to the internet. I would think that for a bit of surfing and checking emails, provided you don't have a heap of big attachments like photo's going back and forth, the $49 / 30Mb would suffice. Try this site for more info... http://www.telstra.com.au/mobile/business/products/mobilebroadband.htm?tR=3m#flex_plans

Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: ran - Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 23:04

Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 23:04
hi we are planning a long trip over east from Perth and wonderd about laptop connection. Thanks to Peters straight forward responce I have the answer. Cheers and safe trails. Larranne
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Follow Up By: Seaking - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 00:04

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 00:04
I'm pleased I helped in some way. At the moment, I'm on the road again and my cdma phone connection has been great. I do have a 6db gain antenna on my bushtracker with a car kit phone holder and antenna coupling and data lead inside that I have found necesarry for fringe areas.
Cheers. Peter
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Reply By: hl - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:04

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:04
Hi,

Telstra "Mobile Internet" is the best option for occasional use in my opinion. There is no monthly charge, and when you connect, it is charged by the minute. It appears as a data call on your bill. Off peak rates are quite resonable. The downside is speed, it is only 14.4 Kbps. It is still not bad to download a few webpages (to see how much money is in your account, etc.) It is certainly adequate for email, but not to send your holiday snaps at 1meg a pop. All you need to do is register and your phone will be enabled. I use a Nokia 6385 and that one does not even need a cable, it can just use the infrared link. It works on either GSM or CDMA with a suitable phone (CDMA is much preferred and is what I use).

Cheers
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:57

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 21:57
I still say internet cafes are the go, no ripoffs ever.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:20

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:20
yes, but not too many 'internet cafes' in the (real) bush, they are ideal when you are actually in a town, however as I understand it this post is more about internet in the outback areas and while traveling.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:22

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 12:22
understand that, but for the stupid costs of using a mobile phone (or it was 3 yrs ago when all our sales staff had it), for how often its used its worth waiting til you get into town, pay the bucks for the short time you need it.

YMMV
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Reply By: tim the enchanter - Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 23:29

Thursday, Aug 25, 2005 at 23:29
i have vodafone pc card for my laptop at home.. 49$ a mth no time or data limits.. you get service wherever there is a digital signal, at 56 kbs.. coupled with a capped prepaid mobile phone i have disconnected my landline and given a well deserved finger to telstra...
hope this is of some help..
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Follow Up By: stevesub - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 07:40

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 07:40
We use Vodafone at $49 per month for up to 500MB of data. The laptop is connected to the PC via a cable (cannot get Bluetoth to work reliably).

Works well when you are in Vodafone range. During my research, I found that all other packages are a rip-off.

At the same time, also changed my ADSL at home from Telstra's $29.95 for 200MB to Exetel, $25 for 2GB, same speed 256/64K. No problems at all.

Telstra - what a rip off. Our home phone is now the $18 per month and I use Skype from my PC for most of my outgoing calls at home 2.8c/min to anywhere I want to call or free to my kids or anyone else with Skype.

Stevesub
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Follow Up By: LIGAF - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:30

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 10:30
find the Vodafone $49 unlimited works great giving Telstra ADSL the big finger as the Vodafone package gives me good enough speed
why pay Telstra $49 a month for fixed when you can have data on the go anywhere for the same price
Up ya Telstra ripped to many off for to long
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Follow Up By: Seaking - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:49

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:49
Vodafone definately have better prices, but the original post referred to CDMA reception in remote areas so the options are either Telstra mobile broadband or leave your laptop at home. Vodafone simply do not have the coverage to be an alrounder and you may as well leave your GSM at home as well.
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Reply By: See You - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:21

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:21
How about this for an idea.

Get in car with family and camping gear, drive into the bush, have a holiday on your own without technology, distractions and mother-in-laws talking crap to you.

Who knows you may even enjoy the bush and all that nature and stuff. Believe me it is far more entertaining than computers, phones and contact with the outside world.

Get into the real world and get back to nature.

You people have forgotten what a "real" holiday is all about.

See You NT
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Follow Up By: Member - Peter D M - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:35

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:35
g'day see you,
wonderfull in fantasy but as the question and my situation falls, life goes on when away from the "office" and having the option and capacity to keep in touch is generally neccessary and desirable. some of the above info is very helpfull.
regards peter
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:39

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:39
How about this for an idea...

You have elderly parents, or
A business which needs regular attention, or
want to go on extended trips but need to attend to 'housekeeping'

What ever the reason...

Understand what you are saying mate - but there are all sorts of reasons why you might need communications - the question wasn't how to get away without them - but how best to do it with them...

Who knows, they may enjoy the bush and nature and stuff - even with comms when they want or need it...

We all know how 'entertaining' it is - that's why we're 'here', and that's why we go 'there'

Not your cup of tea?? thats OK mate, ;-)
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Follow Up By: Seaking - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:22

Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:22
Like Ivan has just said, we all have different situations that call for different solutions. I trade the ASX and when I go touring I will close all short term positions but still need to manage my long term trades, hence the need for a bit of technology. That doesn't mean I miss any of what this wonderful country we live in has to offer, just that if I manage my trades well, I can stay out a bit longer....
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 20:08

Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 20:08
See You,

How about this for an idea.

Let people live their own lives.

Who made you the dictator of all that is right and proper?
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Reply By: Charlie & Rosemary - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 10:44

Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 10:44
I wasn't going to bother replying to that one but, (and this is Rosemary) I adored my mother-in-law - we had a deep love for each other from the time I was 17 until she passed away. Our kids are grown and now camping with their and our family. Charlie works on contracts in Cape York and I am often home and we are buying a camper trailer. I work 3 days a week and run a small business on the net. I want to be able to 'get away' now and then for a 4 day 'short break'. Maybe just to a local beach - all by myself. I don't think you needed to know all this but you assume everyone is like you and able to go off with family and leave the world alone. Sometimes we do, sometimes we still need some enjoyment! Loved the Kimberleys, loved the Nullabor, loved the Cape, loved Tasmania - I could go on forever but at the moment - short breaks it is! Thanks to all you others who understood that!! Cheers and happy holidays - no matter how far (or near) you roam!!
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Reply By: bruce - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:08

Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:08
We just got home from a 15 week trip up the centre and down the west coast and back to Vic...we have the free hr. option with telstra (not available now), a old p2 laptop and a Hyundai mobile , on the net where ever there was a decent mobile signal...internet costs were ..nil...cheers
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