Trak Shak off road trailers
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Hi all, I have been looking around at off road trailers and had almost settled for the Trak Shak. I have since discovered they are now made in China and are not made from australian steel. Can anyone advise if the new imported versions would be as good and strong as the old aussie made, or can anyone suggest a similar type trailer that they would recommend.
Thanks Mal.
Reply By: rolande- Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:12
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:12
Mal,
Try here before making a decision
CT's
First I have heard of the "Made in China"
Where did your info come from?
Rolande
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Follow Up By: malcruiser - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:24
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:24
A person that has just bought one told me. When I asked Trak Shak they would not confirm where they were made but would not say they are made in Australia. For me that confirms my source gave me the correct infomation.
Mal.
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:19
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:19
Is anything not made in China ? Seems odd - will email them to reply to this post. They make the Campomatic now too.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:21
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:21
I've got a mate in Yass (NSW) who is in the process of selling his. It's about 3 years old and is in excellent condition. I think he wants about $18,500- for it. It has independant swing arms
suspension.
Don't know anything about them being made in China. They used to be made in
Adelaide and i thought they still were, although I know the company has changed hands.
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:24
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 11:24
I just checked and they've got it advertised in the Trader section....and I was right; they're asking $18,500-.
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Reply By: Longreach - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:00
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:00
That might explain a couple of things. I was down at the factory earlier in the year asking about getting some modifications done to
mine. I looked out the back and they have stacks of them (perhaps 50 ?) all lined up and they told me they had all been ordered and were ready to go. At the time, I thought it was a bit strange that they didn't sell them as they finished them rather than hoard them up like that. Then, in July, I met another camper who bought one recently and they said they got a special deal because the company was "moving into mass production". They also said some of the things which used to be extras are now standard, such as the boat rack. This might all fall in line with big production somewhere other than the Regency
Park factory.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:10
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:10
Plenty of "Rumours" in CT circles about a Chinese Built CT.
This may
well be the source.
Pity (initally anyway)
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:54
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:54
When you were out the back and they were all lined up, was their any staff making any noise nearby as if any construction was going on ? Its hard to build all steel trailers quietly.
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Follow Up By: Longreach - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:15
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:15
Hi Banjo,
Now that you mention it, I dont recall a whole lot of metal work machinery type noise going on. I'm curious to see the response to your email when it comes !
Cheers.
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Reply By: Moose - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:12
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 13:12
Support Aussie made - give the Trak Shak the flick. There's plenty of others to choose from. Can't recommend one as I'm the process of looking around myself.
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Follow Up By: DCTH-S - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 14:38
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 14:38
Moose have a look at the Deluxe Camper, built in Adders, great product built to withstand the demand of the Deluxe Hire fleet. Please contact George 0417 816 649, check website www.deluxecamper.com.au.
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Reply By: DCTH-S - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 14:48
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 14:48
Have a look at the Deluxe Camper Trailer range at www.deluxecamper.com.au, these are locally produced in
Adelaide, solidly built to withstand hire fleet use. My particular units have recently returned from trips through the centre and north west, were checked over and ready to again immediately without having any problems.
Contact George 0417 816 649 for details of the units, he is based at Woodside or there are agents located at Para Hills and
Happy Valley. The Deluxe units are like most available today in that you can have either On or Off Road and in a Side or Double camper configuration. The Side provides a single queen sized bed and the Double opens to give two queen sized beds.
At least do yourself a favour and have a look at these units as a means of comparison.
Cheers for now
PeterA
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Follow Up By: Moose - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 15:40
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 15:40
Thanks Peter but I'm in
Brisbane and I'd rather buy from a local manufacturer. We've got a heap up here to choose from.
Moose
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Follow Up By: Andrew (Whyalla SA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:44
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:44
You seem to be strongly connected with Deluxe. So what is the connection between Deluxe and TrakShak? The Deluxe appears to be an exact copy of the TrakShak but considerably cheaper (in price, maybe quality too). Was it Deluxe undercutting them that forced them to China?
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Follow Up By: DCTHS - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:58
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 09:58
Andrew there is no connection between Deluxe and Trak. As you know we both have a double unit that is similar but each has their own specific differences. Deluxe does not have a price undercutting policy. If you wish to have some clarification of details please contact George or one the agents listed on the website.
Regards
Peter
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Reply By: brett - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 19:49
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 19:49
As a trak shak owner I can't imagine them being made in China , will be interested to hear some more. Could it be that maybe someone has said they are using steel from China and this has turned into the camper is made in China.
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Reply By: Russel & Mary - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:14
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:14
I also heard the other day from a mate who rang them up and it sounds like it's true.
As for finding the right CT, I found a magazine at the newsagent called "Caravan World's Campertrailer Guide for $6 only two days ago. It reviews nearly 30 campers,plus their prices.
All Terrain,Windsor Rapid,Adventure Camper, Gulf King,Bayside, Kimberly,
Red Rock,T-van, blah blah blah. Very good reading. In the back is a comparison of all the species. Tare weights, extras,tent size,annex, tyre sizes, etc. Rus.
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Follow Up By: Gully - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 07:52
Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 07:52
Hi Russel & Mary;
You are quite right about the magazine, it is a good little publication. The one that you bought is probably the second one, the first one came out late last year. It was the same format; reviews of about 30 different manufacturers trailers and some editorial and tips items. I am told (from the editor) that the magazine is to become a quarterly publication, with the first one to be out in late November. So if anyone is interested keep an eye out in the newsagents.
Cheers.
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Reply By: Andrew from TrekTable - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:54
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 20:54
Wow!
I don't have a CT but I've certainly looked at quite a few with
views to purchase and the Trak Shak was definately my preference so far but if they are really made in China, I'll have to review my decision.
I'm stunned about this for two reasons:
1. I'm suprised that a specialised CT manufacurer has sufficient volume to justify the expense, complexity & risk of venturing offshore for manufacturing (CT's are hardly a commodity item and I expected many were custom made to suit each owners specific needs. Is this still possible?)
2. I'm suprised that the economic benefit to the manufacturer is worthwhile. Obviously labour costs are much lower but when you consider the freight charges etc, I'm surprised the benefit is great enough.
However, many, many excellent products are made in China so if that's what's required to be competitive then so be it.
It's a shame though, I'm always a fan of purchasing the locally made product even if its slightly more expensive as I believe in supporting the local economy and creating opportunities for our kids wherever possible.
Thanks for the heads up.
Andrew
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Follow Up By: brett - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 22:27
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 22:27
I think your reasons are spot on and this is why I find it hard to believe, we're not talking toasters here which can be churned out at a great rate. How many people do trak shak employ, you would have to have a fair few workers to make it viable to save on labour costs.
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:55
Friday, Aug 26, 2005 at 21:55
I sent them the email - maybe it takes a day or two to sort out a response.
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Follow Up By: malcruiser - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 20:23
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 20:23
Hi Banjo,
I notice Trak Shak have not replied. Seems like they would rather people believe this is just a rumour rather than the Truth?????
All those that are saying they doubt it should try and get a straight answer from Trak Shak. I'd think they will get fobbed of like the other that have tried.
Mal
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Reply By: lloyd1977 - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 14:36
Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 14:36
hey mel checkout casuarinacampers at www.casuarinacampers.com.au
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Reply By: johnross - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 21:08
Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 21:08
I have a new trakshak for sale, it is perfect for a family. . Ours has only been used for two nights, & is only about 4 months old. It is being sold (only) due to a recent back injury. It upsets the family seeing it sit there.This has all the options, & is the original not a cheap copy like the deluxe.check them both out there is a difference. See my 4 sale add in explroz trader section.
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Follow Up By: Gajm (VIC) - Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 23:12
Saturday, Aug 27, 2005 at 23:12
Sorry to hear about the back injury mate, I know what thats like. I was lucky enough to see the TrakShak and Deluxe side by side at a camper show, it made paying the extra for our Trakshak an easy decision...chalk and cheese
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Reply By: Toby T - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 13:43
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 13:43
Its funny how when campers come up on the
forum lately that there is one company (in particular) that pushes their product and even quotes their website and often contact name.
RE CHINA
I bought a tent some years ago from a large outdoors company that were importing from China. Not sure of the techincal reasons but the tents were made from a type of canvas that stretched as it got older and became baggy. They dumped hundreds of these suckers and exchanged just as many!!!
If rumour is true, then I'd make sure I bought an Australian made job from a reputable mob..
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Reply By: johnross - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 17:12
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 17:12
How rumours will fly????? Let us see what will come out in the end. At the moment they are all rumours. Believe in what you see, not what you are told. Trak Shak have been around for about 17 years and are still going and build a quality product. Good enough, obviously, for other companies to copy. Doesn't that say it all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Read in archives what other Trak Shaks owners have to say about them. There after sales service by Steven (the manager) is second to none.
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Follow Up By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:52
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:52
Where are they made
John ?
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Reply By: OMN - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:36
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:36
My family and i bought a Trak Shak earlier this year and it has only been used a handful of times but even for a novice like me it was easy to jsutify the Trak Shak over the other brands on the market.
Features, staff were a huge difference they took the damm time to actually listen to my questions not jsut fob me off like so many do at a show, they knew their stuff and had good answers not jsut flippant ones.
The rigidity of the unit seemed pretty solid, but i took a mate who has owned one for 8 years and is a builder and he said it was quality work and pointed out some differences on other models.
Pricing was also competitive when compared to others.
The biggest thing for me probably was that i have tow
young kids and the two full size beds with room to throw a doubel mattress in under the second bed and still ahve heaps of room in the two rooms, one standard the other extra was a real plus.
For a family what better CT is there, i couldnt find one and i looked extensively, as for the China issue go back twenty years and it was the same with the Japenese now most of us are driving 4WD made in Japan perhaps.
Secondly it is just a rumour, who knows whether it is fact or fiction and what does it mater if some parts are not made here, big deal, go round your house right now and throw out everythigng made in China or elsewhere, you might find you ahve a fairly empty house, plus you may end up anked as guess where a lot of our clothes come from.
Lastly, i will judge Trak Shak by when i call them with a question do they help me, how long does it last, what condition is it in after the kids have been trashing it for 5 years etc etc.
Until then i intend to enjoy it and this great country and hope you all do the same.
Mark
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Reply By: Toby T - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:21
Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 08:21
Mal
I would be concerned if they wont advise where they are made - makes you a little sceptical. Surely if they back their product they would be proud to confirm they are either made in Aus or made in China.
CUSTOMERS NEED TO KNOW.
Toby
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Reply By: johnross - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:26
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 06:26
Well here is the truth. I phoned Trak Shak and they didn't hide anything. They are now made in China with mostly Australian made products, except for the things that we don't make. (Like all the things on everyone elses camper trailers). The owner of Trak Shak is over there standing over the process of the manafacture of the trailers to the highest standards (take a look at the finished product). I did see an older model and it wasn't finished off as well. I don't work for Trak Shak. I am just a person who looked for two years to find the right camper for our family. I live in Queensland and live a long way away from
Adelaide and purchased the Trak Shak after visiting the Camping Show in
Brisbane and having a close look at other camper trailers. I have looked in to this further and since found out that some other major brands of camper trailers have their components made in China and assembled here. Who cares in the end, it is the finished product that counts.
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Follow Up By: malcruiser - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:29
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:29
It is good to see they are finally telling consumers part truth. As for being made in China with mostly Australian made products. Do you think for one second that they would export Australian product all the way to China only to put them together and send them back???? Chinese steel Chinese canvas. If you compare the old canvas quality to the new product it is nowhere near as good. I am very disappointed they changed as their old product was great and you can't beat a quality Australian made product.
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:50
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:50
Probably Australian Iron Ore in the steel. LOL.
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Reply By: Robbo3 - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:13
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:13
Well I care very much where they are made. I’d rather buy a local made product to support local industry. Also a local company will have a local labour to fix the things that inevitably go wrong.
Have their prices been reduced to reflect the $2 a day labour they are using?????
Is there steel the same grade?
Is their canvas work going to last - and if it doesn't what then.
Are their poles the same thickness and Australian steel ??
Is their
suspension of the same integrity??
Buy local and be confident.
I'm starting to look around and wont have Trak Shak on my list.
Robbo
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Follow Up By: Dean (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:45
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:45
Cant disagree with you Robbo.
You would presume they are doing this to cut costs.
Will this bring the price down to something realistic, they are way overpriced compared to deluxe campers.
I bet the price remains the same with bigger profits.
Good luck to them, I suppose you cant blame a business for wanting more money in the pocket.
Dean
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Follow Up By: johnross - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:13
Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:13
Good luck finding an all aussie made product. Even KK are made in china & assembled here. The backup & service is what counts
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Reply By: Austravel - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:10
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:10
You'd probably be surprised what materials are used to build all campers. Many campers may be built in Aus but I'll bet they look for the cheapest supplier of steel, axles, springs etc, etc. Which means most will have chinese, indian etc components.
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Follow Up By: Robbo3 - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 19:32
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 19:32
Timely reminder to ask when shopping around.
With springs this can be the case. Have heard about Indian springs that are rubbish.
As another contributor has said, if the type of canvas is inferior then you'll have ongoing troubles.
Go Aussie made - and ask questions.
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