driving lights

Submitted: Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 17:43
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gid'ay all
having the driving lights on top of bull bar,the rules say no,still see a lot of vehicles getting around with em' has any one been booked yet or had a warning?
regards toohey
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Reply By: Tuff60 - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:26

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:26
I'm in Vic, still illegal as far as I know. Never been hassled, touch wood, and I have two square IPF's on the top rail. Had to seal them a bit as light comes out the back around the lense and is really hard to ignore.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:39

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:39
yup.. thats why mine are now on the center bar...

all depends on the bacon that pulls you up
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:54

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:54
gid'ay truckster
was that a warning or did you get booked ,if you did how much,any points.
cheers toohey.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 20:31

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 20:31
warning...

I mentioned that its common to see it...

..."just cause you see 1000's of others dont make it right" was his line to my statement

They work just as well where they are
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Reply By: mattie - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 19:23

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 19:23
Toohey

i spent an afternoon mounting a set of rally 2000's on top of the roo bar of my hilux and drove down to buy a local paper before i left town (longreach) for the weekend and was pulled up and told to have the spotlights removed before he saw me again. He told me u r not allowed to have spotlights above the line of your headlights.

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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 20:02

Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 20:02
Anything bigger than 30mm diameter above the bar is illegal. You can, if the cop is feeling like being an a$$, get a canary for your trouble. A bloke in our local rag a while back was having a rant about "why aren't they out there catching the real criminals"... Got pinched after bolting a couple of mounts to his bar for his shovel, had to present for an inspection to ensure the mount was removed and no sharp edges were left as a result of the removal.
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Reply By: Member - John C (QLD) - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:20

Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 08:20
What is the advantage of running the lights above the bar?
Besides the meaner look?
Have you so many lights that there is no where else to put them?

Has always worried me that lights above the bar are more prone to being wiped out by something, since the bar is there to protect the front of the car.
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Follow Up By: Member - toohey - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 17:03

Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 17:03
better air flow when towing a caravan
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Reply By: Member - Bradley- Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:42

Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 10:42
As far as i read the vic rules, there is no clear height limit for auxiliarry lights, and i can meet the forward visibility requirements (as per bonnet scoops etc.), and my lights have no sharp protrusions and will deform back in case of an accident. SO as far as i care , i'm sweet.
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:43

Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 12:43
Actually according to this:
http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/rdsafe/VSI%2029.pdf

Quote:
"The following guidelines should be used to help ensure that the drivers field of view is not adversely affected whenever any equipment or accessories, including bullbars and driving lights, are fitted to a vehicle."

Driving lights mounted above the bullbar would interfere with the 'Drivers field of View" requirements of the ADR's and therefore are not allowed without "Conditional Registration"

There are also specific restrictions on the height of foglights, that they MUST be below the low beam headlights.

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Follow Up By: Peter - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 00:10

Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 00:10
It looks stupid anyway!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:42

Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 09:42
I should also probably make the point that I , personally, don't care for lights above the bullbar, but I also don't see why the necessarily should be illegal. As Bradley says, they're not really going to increase the level of injury to a pedestrian, the bullbar itself will do that, and they are unlikely to be damaged in a collision with a car, so why not?

There just needs to be MUCH clearer information on what is and isn't allowed AND why.

To have to dig through the Vicroads website for nearly half an hour and download nearly half the documents there and read them to find that little snippet is absolutely ridiculous.

Why isn't it mentioned in the document on vehicle modifications? Surely that's where it belongs...

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:17

Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 10:17
When I had my car engineered I asked the bloke about it. He said as long as it doesnt interfere with your view of "AN OBJECT" 3 mtrs I think it was infront of the truck.

Now , AN OBJECT.. That could be another car, or a toothpick.

search the site for Kevin Williams - hes a Vicroads Approved Engineer. Ask him.
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Follow Up By: pjchris - Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 14:25

Tuesday, Aug 30, 2005 at 14:25
Maybe I will Truckster, thanks for that info...

I do note in that document that Vicroads generally consider that anything wider than 30mm (the limit for aerials and roofrack supports) is not allowed and driving lights are definately wider than that...

As I said above....The rules need to be simple. If lights are not allowed, just say so....Why do we need to go through the BS and work it out for ourselves

Peter

ps. /rant off, I'll go take my pills now....

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