Winch needed for Kimberley?
Submitted: Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:01
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Jabberwocky
I am looking at doing a trip to the
Kimberley earlish next dry season in a Hilux. Is a winch necessary? Electric
winches seem much more attractive in terms of ease of use than hand
winches, but with the expense, I'd really want to know it was worth it before lashing out.
I'm really not sure what part of the
Kimberley I'd be visiting at this point, and would hope to get there more than once.
Thanks
Reply By: moss - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:19
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:19
not if you have another vehicle with you.
I've been to
places like Munja-Walcot inlet, Crystal
Creek - Port Warrander,
King George Falls, and Berkley River and the hilux went through just as easy as Cruisers and Nissans (Sometimes better).
If travelling alone (heaven forbid) to these types of
places a winch would be piece of mind.
moss
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Follow Up By: mattie - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:24
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:24
MOSS
how long ago since u did this last trip? i am interested in going to some of those
places but was unsure if u were allowed to.
MATTIE
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Reply By: moss - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:54
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 18:54
Different
places different years, last trip was a couple of years back,
places east of
Kalumburu can be visited via Carson River Stn with a permit from
Kalumburu.
Track in as far as Striker
Mine upkept by
mine but from there and other tracks are poor and rarely used.
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Follow Up By: mattie - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 19:05
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 19:05
Moss
how long ago did u travel to
Walcott Inlet?
Mattie
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Reply By: moss - Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 23:30
Sunday, Aug 28, 2005 at 23:30
10 years would be close, we went in via Beverly Springs. You can also go via Mt Elizabeth (I think from mem Mt Elizabeth are related to tour operater from
Derby who goes to Bachstan and Munja). Track is rough. Not much at Munja which is
junction of Charnley and Isdel rivers if mem is correct. I believe more to see at Bachstan (think thats how it is spelt) CALM used to do landscope expeditions there so they might have more info (and up to date).
moss
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Follow Up By: Anne from Drysdale River Station - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:41
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:41
Times are a changing. For road accress details contact
Charnley River Station ( formerley Beverly Springs) and Mt Elizabeth Station before planing a trip to Munja/ Walcott/ Bachstan.
Both Station names can be searched & sites found on the net for contact addresses.
cheers, Anne
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Reply By: Rod W - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:26
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:26
Electric
winches and/or any permanently mounted winch restrict you to going in one direction and that usually deeper into the quagmire. Whereas a come-a-long / Tirfor type winch allows removal in any direction. All right you gotta work a bit but it'll probably do ya good.
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Reply By: Longreach - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:41
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 09:41
Perhaps if you were going very remote, by yourself, in the wet, but in the dry for the
Gibb river road, Purnululu, Old mornington etc. I wouldn't bother with a winch. Use the space/weight capacity for other stuff like spare tyres etc. I wonder if anyone could post if they have ever needed a winch in the Kimerley in the dry season.
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Reply By: Grumblebum and Dragon (WA) - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 13:35
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 13:35
Lived in the
Kimberley for 25 years. Never used a winch, do have a high lift jack which can winch slowly in an emergency and is great for unbogging - never used that either.
For peace of mind I carry an
HF radio - bought second hand for $650 and belong to VKS737 radio network.
The older you get the more cautious you become about boring into boggy
places - hasn't restricted my travel though.
regards GB
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Reply By: stevesub - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 13:37
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 13:37
Never been to the Kimberly so cannot comment on that area but we do not carry a winch and ask ourselves some questions before we attack a questionable piece of road.
1. Do I really need to do this road?
2. Is there an easier alternative?
3. Is my vehicle suitable for this road?
4. What are the chances of getting through OK?
5. How far to the nearest help if I do get stuck? Can I radio for help or do I have to walk for help, etc
We have not been stuck yet in the Troopy but have turned back a couple of times. I know that the Kimberly is a long way away and you may want to do questionable tracks so my opinion is like some others - get a good hand winch and the gear that goes with them, Shackles, snatch block, winch extension cables, etc. A good hand winch is on our shopping list before we do much more by our selves.
We have been down the track with a front mounted electric winch on a Landrover and quite often, we have winched ourselves further into the S***t because you are limited as to which direction you can winch.
Stevesub
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Follow Up By: D-Jack - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 22:37
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 22:37
what about...
.6 Do I want to be called a nancy girly blouse if my mates happen to see me turn around!
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Reply By: Crackles - Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 22:34
Monday, Aug 29, 2005 at 22:34
NO. In the dry season there are few tracks I would say are difficult enough to warrent a winch & in the unlikely event you did get stuck just boil the billy by which time another tourist will be along to snatch you out.
Cheers Craig..............
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Reply By: Member - Collyn R (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:15
Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:15
I live and travel extensively in the
Kimberley. Only time needed to use winch on our OKA was when i bogged it down behind the outside dunny on our own property!
The locals are still laughing.
Collyn Rivers
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:41
Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:41
We planned a trip to the
Kimberley several years ago. The advice I was given by a reputable 4WD
shop was to invest in the following rather than recovery gear for that trip:
A second spare tyre on a rim
A spare tyre casing
Tyre tubes
Tyre Repair kit
Bead breaker or similar
A Compressor
Do you see where I am coming from..........
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Reply By: Twin Dogs - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:56
Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 10:56
No winch needed,
Kimberley is pussy stuff.
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Reply By: Anne from Drysdale River Station - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:52
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 02:52
Earlish can mean anything when it comes to the end of the wet season. Can be dry in early April or not till late May. Now days if wet enough to need a winch on the road then the road will still be closed, same applies to the rivers if they are over about 750/ 800 mm deep they won't open road.
High lift, shovel and know how ( and time & work) will get you out of 95 % of bog holes, but to get that bogged it will need to be one big wet season and you will need to be off the beaten track.
If still wet and you take to the scrub, yes by the time you dig it out you might wish you had a winch, otherwise as the others say very unlikely to miss having one.
cheers, Anne
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:11
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:11
Hi Anne,
We are taking 6mths off next year and intend travelling around your area plus the Pilbra. I have the Hemma maps and a book on the Kimberly by Ron Moon. Since we will have at least a few months in that area was hoping to see as much as possible. We (wife and self) are experience remote travellers and will be trying to get to any less frequented areas. Are there any
places, books, info centres you'd recommend me going to/getting???
Any info is appreciated.
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