Combo HF/UHF units?

Submitted: Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:49
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Anyone here got a combo HF/UHF unit? Saw one on eBay (Yaesu FT-857D which is apparently a new model), and wondered why I haven't heard much about them before - are they very popular? Given their compactness I thought they might be more common than seperate units.
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:51

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 09:51
FT857 is illegal to use on CB - it is Amateur use only.

Uniden make a combo HF/UHF - UH-099 - I think
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:21

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:21
There's all kinds off non approved commercial gear being used on the UHF CB bands these days and it appears the authorities turn a blind eye unless a complaint is made against someone. Why would the authorities bother themselves chasing people with amateur gear!
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:46

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:46
Does that just mean it has the same licencing requirements as a regular HF radio? i.e. pay for a call sign, join VKS737, etc?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:54

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 10:54
No that radio is illegal to use on vks737 or any other non amateur frequency.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:09

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:09
which means it must be good! :D
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Reply By: Member - Sam (NSW) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:16

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:16
whats the reason for it being illegal? is this due to the output power of the transmitter?
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:32

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:32
It can be easily set up on illegal frequencies, it can put out illegal power levels, it does not have the frequency stability required etc etc
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:26

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:26
Are there any models of HF/UHF combo units that are legal for use with VKS737?
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:51

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 12:51
Just go with it, who on earth would ever know.

I run a DEADLY CRITICAL ILLEGAL TERRORISING 25w uhf in mine.
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Follow Up By: hl - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:57

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:57
Actually....
It won't transmit very well on UHF CB frequencies (after mod)
It is a great amateur rig, but not so good in "untrained" hands, i.e. it is much more complex to operate than say a Codan. Bin Laden would have a problem......
It also has no selcal or emergency button.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 14:59

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 14:59
How many people actually ever use selcall? 1%?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:12

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:12
Reported on the ABC yesterday that Bin Ladens mob were buying radios from Codan a few yrs ago so yeah the amateur stuff was too complicated for them.
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Follow Up By: Twin Dogs - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:00

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 11:00
Truckster 25 watts, wow, no wonder the climate is changing.
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:30

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 11:30
No

There are no combo HF UHF units that are legal on any commercial (i.e. non-Amateur) band that I know of. Other than the Uniden CB combo UHF-HF
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Follow Up By: Phil P - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:21

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:21
Are you saying there is a Uniden Combo Radio that will work with the VKS737 network ?

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Follow Up By: gramps - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:23

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:23
And legal ????
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Follow Up By: Mike DiD - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:40

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:40
No, the Uniden covers CB on UHF and HF (27 Meg)
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Reply By: Brad G (SA) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:50

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 13:50
Anyone who knowingly use an overpowered transceiver is a fool and a moron and is contributing to the frequency pollution and misuse that is all to frequent in Australia today and will ultimately lead to frequencies become unreliable and therefore another cheap and effective communication means will be ruled out by general users. Those who use overpowered transceivers are deluding themselves it will give them better coverage. Those of us who utilise and generally monitor transceivers whilst on the road as well as base operators run legal powered sets and whilst we may be able to hear the overpowered sets we probably will not be able to get back to them. These people generally do not have the mental capacity to reckonise this and will keep transmiting blocking out everyone who is trying to contact them and provide help. This also annoys other users who will turn the sets off thus rendering the mobile safety net us travellers provide whilst on the road completely useless. You people who using overpowered sets wake up to yourselves and rectify the problem. I'm sure the ACMA will be interested in anyone knowingly using an overpowered set and I urge all forum users to report these fools. If I have upset you or angered you then tuff, deal with it and pull your head out of your a#*% and fix the problem.
Australian Communications & Media Authority
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:10

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:10
Its outbursts like that which make me want to tell you i have a 25watt icom and a 35 watt motorola.........(and loving it)......
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:27

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 16:27
Doubt if the ACMA give a crapola, under staffed as it is, probably more so with the recent merge.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:07

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:07
ditto Voxon
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:08

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:08
wonder if he's ever done anything illegal?
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:44

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 18:44
I just gave myself up at the ACMA....
I could not bear watching over my shoulder for the rest of my life....
They can now cross me off the ten most wanted illegal modulators known to mankind and get back to running their unit in a normal manner...
Can Explore Oz hold my membership number open till i get out...
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Follow Up By: Wetty (W.A) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 19:51

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 19:51
I wonder how Brad feels about linear amplifiers??? 300 watts on AM gets you a way lot further than 5 watts ever will, and on the upside, you can light fluro tubes without having them plugged into a light socket!
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:55

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 07:55
wetty, you getting your electricity free?
wait till the authorities find out...dont let brad know
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Follow Up By: See You - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:16

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:16
More interferance came into my HF sets from those bloody asians yabbering in their unintelligent language than any form of Australian interference. Thier noise wipes out reception on most HF and Ham channells and makes them unusable at times in the NT and North Queensland.

A little playing around with a couple of HF sets will not make a difference compared to the crap that our northern neighbours generate.

I say go for it and play around with the sets. Make em do what you can. After all that is what the ametuer licence is designed for. Experimentation.

The ACA or any other authority will not care. They dont persue anyone that is doing more than interfereing with someones telly. And it usually takes about 100 complaints for them to send a van with a few antennas on top to try and solve the problem.

The old days of guys tracking down CBers with noisy linears that buzz and crackle in the 70's have long gone. The 70s were great. Buy a linear amp to transmit to Uranus, try and listen for a response but none heard because no one else had a linear that could transmit a signal back to you. Heaps could hear you but none could get back so you thought that the linear did not work. Put it in the classifieds after a few weeks and pi$$ it off..

You can get almost any program, programming leads, and mod advice of the web now. That is why the emergency services have gone digital in Aus. Too many kids able to transmit on their frequencies. Anyone with a grade 6 education can do it.

Me I prefer satphones for all of my vehicles. No noisy asians and ametuer radio operators who think that they are god of the airwaves to deal with.
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Reply By: VK3CAT - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 21:03

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 21:03
One of the issues of using an Amateur transceiver out of band is the frequency tolerance of the output filters in the PA stage being designed for the amateur range of frequencies. They are not efficient and can be easily damaged when used way out of their designed frequency range. Some Yaesu tranceivers with the factory Alaska Emergency Channel option fitted (5167.5 kHz) may be OK when used on 5455kHz.

I have used selcal & beaconing on HF & use a Codan with the amateur option rather than a modified amateur transceiver because other non-technical people find it easier to use and it is designed for mobile outback (rugged) use (& is type approved). I have had 2 Yaesu HF radios fail (FT747 & FT100) in the Landcruiser although no problems with an IC706IIG.

According to the Mods site, the Yaesu FT857 will still not TX on the UHF CB band when the jumpers are altered.
Cheers, Tony.
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Follow Up By: See You - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:04

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:04
10-4 good budgie
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Reply By: Member - Kevin H (WA) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:44

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:44
so after all that about radio's being legal or illegal did the poor bloke get the answer to his original question
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:48

Wednesday, Aug 31, 2005 at 22:48
it looks like it Kev
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Reply By: Mike DiD - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 06:32

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 06:32
Uniden make a combo HF/UHF - UH-099 - It covers 27 Meg CB and UHF CB.

There is no approved rig that covers VKS737 HF and UHF CB
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:16

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 09:16
Thanks Mike :-)
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Follow Up By: gramps - Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:46

Thursday, Sep 01, 2005 at 14:46
Mike,

What Scubaroo said too
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