ICE your phone. Save a life.

000 dont know I am allergic to tea tree oil.

000 dont know my father in law has a heart problem and he keeps his tablets in a blue tin next to his bed in the second draw or in his right pants pocket.

000 dont know that my name is Helen and i live at ------ st ------- Vic.

000 dont know that I had the same condition 2 years ago when I was working in a indoor swimming pool and ...

000 know ooo about me.

get the point?

wear a id tag... then every one will know!
in an Emergency there may not be time to ring someone else! to find out your allergies

They may not be home, either, so I guess the policy would be to go to the next person in the list and so on....

So why not include everyone on their mobile phone??? Ah, but not everyone knows your full medical history, even then they may not be able to help if you are away from home.

You have just lost valuable time trying to find someone on the other end of the phone tht may or may not be able to help. Isn't it better to phone the professionals (000), that have all the resources and knowledge, and will be there quicker than most ppl could turn up.

Consider also the legal implications of a non-medically trained person giving advice over the phone. What happens if you get it wrong??? Personally I would not want to be on one of those lists, and I'm a Registered Nurse with almost 20 yrs experience in ICU.

For example a bad asthma attack can look similar to pulmonary odoema in the early stages to a lay person. They have two totally different forms of treatment. Just because they "usually" get this or that, does not mean they have it this time.

Thats a very good point GaryInOz.

I suppose you are telling me that in your 20 years of nursing & ICU you have never spoke to a family member? Or asked for a history from anyone?

Wow that is amazing.

Thank God nurses are not trained to think for themselves but rather trained to react like monkeys in a Russian space ship.

Helen. Pro life.

.

BLAM! POW! OUCH!

I think you guys are missing the point with this ICE thing.

If you're in an accident a nearby "LAY" person calls 000. The medics arrive stabilise your condition and might take you away in the ambulance to the hospital.

On the way to the hospital the ambo staff staff might take take your mobile and call you first ICE person. To let them know of the situation and which hospital the're going to.

ICE is not so much to gain information but to give info about your condition to your next of kin.

AND
Helen - Get a life.

R

What if the phone is locked and you don't have the pin code, it's happened to me, it was my phone and i forgot my pin.

One thing that came from it was Nokia are a pain to deal with and optus were even a bigger pain.

Only lock key pad now

now now Robak..leave helen alone...she has right to print/tpye/voice her opinions, no matter how sarcastic it sounds :-)

Oh, all right nude nut, it's the americans that used monkeys not the russians. Right?

right hehehe

"Thats a very good point GaryInOz.

I suppose you are telling me that in your 20 years of nursing & ICU you have never spoke to a family member? Or asked for a history from anyone?

Wow that is amazing."

Usually the Medical staff (Ambulance Officers and Doctors) have already diagnosed and commenced tratment of the real problem by the time we see them. Generally, second hand information from family members is not considered 100% reliable, only information from mentally competent (no insult intended) patients, Ambulance Officers, and their GP's, is considered accurate and relevant for the events leading up to their admission to hospital.

"Thank God nurses are not trained to think for themselves but rather trained to react like monkeys in a Russian space ship.

Helen. Pro life. "

I'm not even going to comment on that one..............

chicken! hahaha

Oh boys...

I have no issue with being wrong here.

I have an issue with being d. e. a. d.

Robak ... I though ICE was TO gain info. Blood type, allergies basic medical and even complex medical information that may assist the ambos & doctors do their jobs effectively.

GaryInOz once the ambo person and doctors have done their job, then they handball it on to you to wipe bottoms and take temperatures.

ICE is for the front line specialists. Not the cleaners.

Go and tell a doctor in ER that you think he is better off NOT talking to a family member or someone with knowledge of a posible existing medical condition.

I know a lot of nurses and they are the most un creative un thinking lot. They would be useless if someone did not train them and take them through step by actual step. They do 3 years at uni and most of them are so scared of doing the simplist tasks in their 1st year out.

I didnt mean to upset any man here. I only thought that ICE was a good idea.

If you dont want to do it then thats fine. Dont!!!

Doctors make $100,000 per year. Nurses make $53,000 tops.

Have a nice day. Helen.

Now, where did I put that glass ceiling....

Recieved the replies in my email (they have dissappeard from this thread)

Member John (Vic), not quite the way I would have put it but the sentiment is there.

HelenWheels, In light of your demands of John, I would respectfully request a public apology to myself and other Nurses from you for the insulting tone of your posts.

Hi Gary
You know in life things are not what they appear to be.
Don't hold you breath over a sincere apology from "Helen"

Cheers

Struth Helen (Pro Life as you describe yourself),

You've said some pretty ordinary things.

"Thank God nurses are not trained to think for themselves but rather trained to react like monkeys in a Russian space ship."

"I know a lot of nurses and they are the most un creative un thinking lot"

"They would be useless if someone did not train them and take them through step by actual step."

You've lost me. Perhaps you best stick to accumulating canned food for camping trips (as per your first post). It was the most sensible thing you have posted.

ICE may be a good idea, but insulting others for their views is not.

I apologise Gary.

I was rather harsh.

I get cranky every now and then.

I am sorry.

Jimbo and John (vic) please except my apologies too. I was wrong.

Sorry.

Helen.

Helen,

You didn't offend me personally, hence no apology to me is warranted.

Others perhaps, but not me.

Good Luck, I've done similar at times, as have many other others.

The ability to apologise is a fine quality. I wish you well.

Cheers,

Jim.

it appears your..

"f u n"

..may have stopped the serious side of the thread??

If not
it will continue as I get hassled for being norty, again
(or is that still)