90 series dual fuel

Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 09:27
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Hi all. Has anyone replaced the sub-tank on a 90 series with an LPG tank in a dual fuel conversion? Can it be done?

Anyone recommend a place in Melbourne to talk to? And maybe a ballpark on how much such a conversion should cost?
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:59

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 10:59
I think you'll find that the LPG places want to keep the 69 litre sub, and replace the rear main tank with LPG.

Haven't heard of anyone doing it the way you suggest
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:42

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:42
That would work too I guess. Its just to have "cheaper" fuel option available, but depends on costs & downsides.
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Reply By: flappa - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:15

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:15
When I was looking at Prado's it was HIGHLY recommended to stay well clear of dual fuel Prado's.

Apparently they can have head issues just on fuel , and LPG makes them run a lot hotter , and cause more problems.

Just for info.

Your vehicle , your money , your choice.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:44

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:44
Good info flappa. Have to admit, this is my initial poke around the idea, not much research so far. Where was your info source?
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Follow Up By: flappa - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:28

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 12:28
Overlander did a writeup on "buying a used Prado" a while back (2 years or so probably).

Also info from the Prado group on Yahoo.

I also spoke to a mechanic who was fixing a V6 Pajero on Gas , who said he had the same problems with a Prado not long before.

To do with Alloy Heads on Steel block ?

I think the V6 4Runner has similar problems ?

I think all 3 , V6 Pajero (early ones), V6 Prado , and V6 4 runners are quite well known for blowing head gaskets. Running on Gas compounds the problem.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 14:23

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 14:23
Flappa, despite what I said before (ie. below in this thread) about getting worried, I've been speaking to the installers, toyota, much wider Internet searches, and can't find much more about common issues with LPG on the Prado. Have you got the Overlander report? I'm starting to swing the other way now, but do want to tie this one off.

Tone
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Reply By: stans truck - Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:37

Wednesday, Sep 07, 2005 at 11:37
hi there dont know if this will help i have a 100 series and the sub tank was removed and a lpg tank was fitted no prob.at all good ground clearance and its great 90lt usable i get around town 450-to 465 on a tank full my land cruiser is a manual regards stan.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:00

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:00
Not the cheapest gas but parnell or lp1 do injected gas as in same as your efi injecters with a computer controllng it ....no loss of power on either fuel
When you convert to gas, you want to use it as much as possible for the benefit of saving $$, cheapest option would be gas tank inside, then new subtank with fuel pump and gas under the rear. Also consider the cost of heavier rear springs as part of the conversion...you will need them.
It may be possible to put a few scuba tanks along the back fl;oor and build a cover over it if you dont want to use the rear seats ever again...
Andrew
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:18

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:18
Auto Gas Conversions
Aster ave in Carrum Downs.

Next to Andrews work(dude u was talkin to last night)

They also have a 4wd dyno.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:24

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 16:24
Thanks truckster. But I think I've been scared off it, pending more research. Definite fuel savings, but at what cost I'm not sure.

Maybe I'll just get a fitch instead.
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 20:38

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 20:38
Yeh, I hear they work really well. ;-)
Regards Andrew.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:17

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:17
lol. hook, line & sinker!
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:02

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:02
You can go to the brothel next to andrews and have a service while you wait for your car to be serviced.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:42

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 12:42
Auto Gas Connection told me a day and 1/2 to convert. Could get a bit raw.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 21:56

Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 21:56
They have a spa in there, you could sit and sooth..
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Reply By: prado_95 - Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 21:16

Thursday, Sep 08, 2005 at 21:16
LPG should produce the same or more power as petrol, with the appropriate adjustments in ignition timing.

After all LPG has effective octane rating of 100+.

My car produeces 3% more power on LPG than petrol, using 'old technology' LPG mixer. LPG injection (as a liquid) should improve that, should I want to spend the $$.

GAS RESEARCH in Hoppers Crossing know their stuff, and have a couple of 'interesting' LPG only hi pressure turbo +6 litre V8 cars in their shop.

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:19

Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 08:19
Cool, thanks.
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Reply By: STEVE069 - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 23:02

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 23:02
I have got a 2002 prado witch has been fitted at 3000k the vehicle has now done 52000k without a problem. The tank is fitted in place of the main tank and runs off the main fuel tank gauge. Also fitted is a flash lube system for extra valve lube while running on LPG. The main thing is when you get (if you get) a system fitted is that while running on gas you still have the petrol pump curulating petrol into the fuel rail and injectors to keep them cool. I worked at a 4wd repair centre for 4 years as a mechanic and forman please dont compare the prado v6 with the pajaro or the 4 runner v6 they were a crap motor from day one.

I hope this helps
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Follow Up By: Member - Tonester (VIC) - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:16

Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 07:16
Thanks Steve. I'll check out that pump thing.
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