HICLONE information
Submitted: Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
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Member - Mal
as anybody fitted HICLONES to a 80 series diesel factory turbo, and do they work, looking for a bit more lodown power .safe driveing MAL
Reply By: OziExplorer - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Probably the most fraudulent piece of garbage you could possibly buy.
Just do a search on Google about the snake oil and Hiclone sales persons. 4WD Monthly had a long advertorial claiming their virtues, but the article should be termed as blatent fraud and misrepresentation. What could you expect from such a junky magazine that specialises in doing advertorials that look like factual articles.
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Reply By: David_NSW - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Hi Mal
Not too sure were oziexplorer gets his facts. But that aside, my understanding of the Hiclone is that it's surposed to generate turbulence in the air flowing into your engine to create a better air/fuel mixture, hence better combustion. Nothing could greate more turbulence then the turbo you already have and in fact it may even serve to restrict the air flow your turbo is working to produce.
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Follow Up By: Georg - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
At last some common sense
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:00
Tuesday, Dec 17, 2002 at 01:00
I agree with Ozi, it was on A Current Affair, and other shows showing it does nothing...
Well known on everylist bar this actual thread saying they suck, do nothing and are a waste of $...
4wd monthly always seem to do positive reports on stuff they have fullpage ($$$$) ads on... Look at Toyota, you ever seen a negative word on them?
I can think of better things to throw $100+ at, Even Saddam would get my $100 first....
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Reply By: jeremy - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
g'day mal,i have a hiclone for sale;i used it for 3 years in a VS Commodore and was pleased.It gave only a slight improvement in fuel economy but it also sharpened throttle response;i noticed this when i removed it to sell the vehicle.I would be more inclined to try it in a normally aspirated diesel as the turbo is already force feeding your engine.
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Reply By: Goodsy - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Don't waste your money Mal. If hiclones were any good they'd be on all cars from the factory.
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Follow Up By: Derek - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
They almost are! All Hyundais have them as standard and have had for several years now.
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Reply By: Member - Jim - Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Monday, Dec 16, 2002 at 01:00
Hello Mal - I fitted two of them to my 80 series turbo about 2 years ago, one before the the turbo and one after, they cost me $300.00. I also keep records of my fuel consumption, and did not notice any difference in fuel consumption or performance. I recently removed the Hi Clones and immediately noticed a slight reduction in acceleration.
I would suggest that the $300.00 could
well have been better spent elsewhere.
Check out the pros and cons of a larger exhaust system.
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Reply By: scotty - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
I inserted a hiclone in my rectum and it is true that my poo now comes out in spirals and the fartz get away in a most efficient manner. It may not however work to the same quantity in a turbo landcruiser. My dog has recently had one inserted and he now does SBD's (silent but deadly). My ageing mother in law had one inserted and it has reduced the embarrasing sounds at the dinner table. All of the land rover drivers in the world should have them inserted so as the digested scroggin has no friction on the way out. They all should shave their beards off too.
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Follow Up By: Ferret - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
You appear to be a very bitter person, was your first born run over by a Landrover???
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Reply By: Derek - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Mal, the comments made by the above SENSIBLE people are opinions only. Some of them are passing judgement based on hearsay and have never owned one of these devices or scientifically tested them. If you are really interested in getting one, then do what I did when I had my extractors etc fitted.......find a garage that has a chassis dynomometer and do a before and after
test. This will satisfy you and maybe once and for all put an end to the debate of Hiclones on this
forum.
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Reply By: brian - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Hello Mal, to the above replies ...hang on a minute...dont hiclones come with a no risk money back guarentee!!!! this is better than i can get from engel,waceo, nissan,toyota,landrover,coleman or even the local brothel...dont slag a manufacturer prepared to offer this unnecessarily, somebody please tell me of any other manufacturer of anything to do with 4wd s that matches this offer.
happy camping and be fair.
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Follow Up By: Royce - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
I am trained in marketing Brian. One method of selling a product is to offer a no questions asked, money-back guarantee. Most successful businesses do this. Kmart, Big W etc. all do it.... so do most dodgy but successful marketers. Note the late-night TV telemarketers all offer money-back guarantees. Most people just don't bother to take stuff back. Most people who buy these types of 'wonder' products are just too embarassed to admit they are wrong.... or imagine that things have improved. Cheers Royce
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Reply By: Mal - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
thanks for the advice guys it made for interesting reading. i surpose the only way would be to try (DONT THINK SO ) safe driveing mal
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Reply By: Slicksta - Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
Wednesday, Dec 18, 2002 at 01:00
30 day money back guarantee....yes, read the fine print something along the lines of allow 60 days for full benefits, pressed they will refund your money as they do not want a small claim against them,
as much as scotty has a slight problem conversing his reply was fairly spot on.
slicksta
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Follow Up By: Feetup - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
I bought a Hiclone for my '89 Navara 2.4P
Kept fuel consumption records for months before, so I knew what I should expect.
First unit they sent was the wrong one - fuel consumption went up heaps! After 30 days I sent them emails explaining increased consumption, they said keep it for another 30. That's when it was discovered I had the wrong one.
Second unit - no change to fuel consumption at all after 30 days. They gave me another 30; still no change. Full refund, no hassles. FWIW I found them nice people to deal with, most apologetic that the unit didn't work "in my case".
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Reply By: Member - John - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Mal, have fitted them to 2 Nissan patrols, first was 2.8td, increased power at back wheels by 2kw, no decrease in fuel consumption, removed and got money back. Second was 4.2td, no increase in kw and increase in fuel consumption, removed and got money back. I've tried them, would not recommend them. Hope this helps.
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Reply By: Maria - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
I fitted a Hiclone to my diesel HiLux and found absolutely no change in consumption or performance. After six months I removed it for a few months and then put it back in, definitely no change. I kept very accurate records the whole time. Waste of money. Maybe they do something for petrol engines, but certainly not for diesels.
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Reply By: Allyn - Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
Saturday, Dec 21, 2002 at 01:00
I have no personal experience with them but know a few who have fitted them.
Logic tells me that the lack of people (both on this
forum and that I know) prepared to give them the thumbs up appears to be indicative of how good they really must be.
Having said that if anyone can give me rave reviews for an 80 series diesel then I truly am prepared to listen.
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Follow Up By: Maria - Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
Here's your first rave review.
I bought a new 80 series GXL diesel (back in '92) and did 120 000ks over four years. Never missed a beat, couldn't fault it. Great vehicle.
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Follow Up By: Allyn - Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
Sunday, Dec 22, 2002 at 01:00
I have an 80 series already. I was after a rave review on a Hiclone fitted to an 80 series.
Very clever if intentional and if not I giggled anyway!
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Follow Up By: Maria - Thursday, Dec 26, 2002 at 01:00
Thursday, Dec 26, 2002 at 01:00
you guessed it Allyn. You can probably get any number of rave reviews for your 80 series but I'll eat my hat if you get even one for a Hiclone.
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Reply By: tour boy - Friday, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:00
Friday, Jan 03, 2003 at 01:00
You can now eat your hat!!! . I have had hiclones on 40 series, 80 series, hilux and 60 series. I wont have a vehicle without one. On older type diesels they make the idle smoother and slightly more punch. both my dad and father inlaw have one and they are wrapped. The thing that doesnt seem to work is called a turbo zet. I have used in all the above vehicles and the only one that it seemed to do anything for was the 60 series petrol auto at high revs giving a slight but short boost.
catch ya.
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