Another 3.0 litre GU broken piston
Submitted: Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:06
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Hi,just got some info on GU 3.0 litre's going up in smoke --litterally. I had no tell tale signs,like blowing black smoke or being under powered. Driving along at 110 i lifted my foot off the thottle coming into a 100 zone and with a puff of smoke and instant accelleration the patrol took off. Turning off the ignition did nothing as the broken piston pressurised the sump pushing oil up the breather into the air inlet and compression did the rest .With foot flat to the floor on the brake it felt like forever to pull up until the engine stalled. The fourby gets taken off to John Oxley Nissan up here in Port Macquarie and we start finding out whats happened and how much to fix it. This is a 2000 model with 107k on the clock, oil & filters get changed every 5000k ,cav fuel filter every 10000k, and air 20000.This girl gets babied, never towed big loads.So it doesnt seam to matter how theyre treated ,nobody can explain how & why these things blow up & how to stop it happening again. Nissan Aust in
Melbourne have come to the party with parts but that still leaves a $ 3500 + bill for labour that we should'nt have.
Any ideas on where to get help from this point on would be greatly appreciated,
thanks in advance
Andrew
Reply By: Peter McGuckian (Member) - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:29
Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:29
For a start take a look at Post 26325 and follow the adviceof fourstall.
Peter
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Follow Up By: hl - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:43
Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:43
hmmm
By the sound of yours taking off after it blew....
This could
well become a safety issue when someone crashes as a consequence.
I would certainly push that line.....
cheers
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Follow Up By: angler - Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:47
Friday, Sep 09, 2005 at 22:47
I think the post number is wrong. 26325 is this post
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Follow Up By: 120scruiser - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 13:35
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 13:35
It should be post number 25603
CLICK HERE
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Follow Up By: Peter McGuckian (Member) - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 14:15
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 14:15
Sorry folks - thanks for the correction 120s.
Peter
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Reply By: Willem - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 08:49
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 08:49
Do an Archive Search on this site and also search for Peter McG's post. There are lots of documented tales of 3lt's enigne failures. Follow the protocol with Nissan and you should get a new engine out of them
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Follow Up By: Patrol Freak (NSW) - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 11:19
That's exactly why I brought a 4.2 after doing some checks on 3lt's
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 13:25
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 13:25
look at the year though.
Leroy
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 17:45
Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 17:45
there should be a website just with info on the failures, but I dont know of a server that would be big enough
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:34
Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 10:34
Indeed re pushing the safey line - as others have said - with Nissan, be nice and persistent and don't forget to make clear your harrowing experience when the safey of all occupants was put as risk as the engine refused to stop. Lets be clear about this - THE LAW REQUIRES A RECALL when manufacturers know that safety is compromised - they all do do it continually for very a host of minor issues. They can do it for engines too - precedent is there - while considering your individual case, a new engine may be "good customer relations" on their part. Convince them that your are organised, informed and will not be fobbed off - after all, should they not have forwarned you in writing as an owner, of this established risk (as in a recall) ?
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Follow Up By: hl - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:59
Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:59
Hi...
Well, maybe it is time someone with that sort of experience does contact the relevant authority (maybe ACCC?).
I am sure there would be action if someone is killed as a result. Why wait for that?
Cheers
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Reply By: Ron173 - Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 19:57
Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 19:57
I know this probably doesnt help, but its relevant so thought worth putting in.
I think its terrible people have these dramas, however, I recently met a great couple on tour from WA, their 3.0ltr patrol had just done the piston party trick, and after telling them info from here regarding calling
Melbourne etc, they took it up.
Nissan are going to rebuild it, they say they stopped replacing engines 7weeks ago, however are supplying parts only.
There is still an ongoing 'bunfight' over the labour, which as a retired couple on holiday, I hope they dont need to pay.
Ron
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Reply By: G.T. - Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 13:21
Tuesday, Sep 13, 2005 at 13:21
Andrew --- It obviously looks that Nissan has taken the decision to only supply parts for out of warranty 3litre patrols. My question to them would be that the parts they are supplying to you are of a modified type that will rectify the problem that caused your engine failure so that it won`t occur again. I would also would want to know what the difference is with the new parts and what warranty they carry.
$3500.00 labour for a rebuild to my mind is way over the top. At $100.00 per hour this equates to 35 hours ( 5 hours short of a working week! ) to strip and assemble the engine. What machining costs are involved -- eg crankshaft grind , rebore ?? any thing else?? maybe surface the cylinder head? Do they have to perform substantial work to your block to cure the problem that existed ? Is their labour charge $100.00 per hour? What qualifications does the mechanic have , or is it a 2nd/ 3rd year apprentice or maybe a 1st year one doing the job?
My guess is that they will not supply the parts unless they do the job, in other words they will not let you take the parts away so that you can get some else to do the job far you , fair enough I suppose if they are supplying a warranty of how long? Same as a new vehicle ? or less? I am guessing again but in my opinion the $3500.00 ( plus?) in some way is going towards the cost of the parts they are supplying. Check with other engine reconditioners in your area to see what they would charge.
As others have advised , go through the correct proceedures with Nissan , hopefully they will come to the party. Also the safety issue should be advised to the appropiate authorities regardless of what your out come is
I hope that your out come is as good as previous people have had. Regards G.T.
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