Ratchet or Tie Downs ?

Submitted: Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 14:48
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Hi all,

Just put the roof rack back on the Patrol, ready for a CSR trip at the end of the week. Unfortunately I need to cary 4 20L Jerry Cans of diesel on the roof.

Just wondering what the feedback is on the type of tie downs to use for the jerry cans. They are the Rheem 20L type.

Ratchet
http://www.bmackay.com.au/dp/strap-2075samp.html

or Bike Type tie downs
http://www.gobike.com.au/prod1732.htm

Thanks in advance
Phil P

PS: Yes I know you should have as much weight as low as possible, however the Patrol can only hold so much (4 Passengers, water, fridge, recovery equipment etc)

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Reply By: Joe - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 15:08

Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 15:08
Hi Phil,
Myself and others used ratchet tie downs similiar to the "bmackay" ones, but not as heavy duty....of the type purchased at the likes of Bunnings,but top end quality.

As side comment I carried 4 23lt marine cans on top of my 120 Prado for North Simpson Hay River crossing recently.
The marine cans are low profile and wide and stayed in place on the 12,000km trip....also fuel is dispensed via marine fuel line with hand bulb pump....no lift down cans or spills...the marine cans stay tied down on top at all times.
cheers.
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Follow Up By: figtree - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:21

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 13:21
Hi Joe,

Is is OK to fill up the cans while they are on the roof rack? I was told there is a regulation thay they should be filled on the ground, to prevent static discharge. i. e. fire....

Joseph
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Follow Up By: Joe - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 16:54

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 16:54
Hi Joseph,
I originally spoke to people in the industry, and was advised that the nozzle is earthed, therefore just keep the nozzle surface in contact with the marine tank mouth as you fill it.
I refilled in a number of service stations without anyone raising an eyebrow....carried this out kneeling up on the roof rack
When I dispensed into the 4wd I made a point of first puting one bare hand on the steel body work and one on the ground, to discharge static.
cheers
joe
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Reply By: Glenno - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 16:03

Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 16:03
I used the Rhino Ratchet straps for quite a few years. They have performed without fault.
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Reply By: Footloose - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 17:53

Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 17:53
Just make sure your cans are insulated from the rack and each other. Constant rubbing can kill them...and it won't do you any good either :)
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 18:05

Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 18:05
I would go something like the GOBIKE ones, but not with hooks, with loops at each end.
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Reply By: slave - Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 20:47

Saturday, Sep 10, 2005 at 20:47
We used the ratchet tie downs for our 2 jerries when crossing the Simpson.

With 4 travelling in the car something has to go on the roof doesn't it !!

we had a sheet of rubber between the jerries and the rack and were able to lay them on the long edge ( does that make sense)

Mrs Slave
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Reply By: mfewster - Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 07:59

Sunday, Sep 11, 2005 at 07:59
Re rubber between jerry cans. Try this. Get a BIG cactused truck tube from the throw out bin of your local truck tyre fitter. Cut to necessary length and stretch over the jerry can like a condom. Can use two for extra protection if you wish (on the jerry can that is).
Works beautifully.
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Reply By: fozzy - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:00

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 08:00
phil
bunnings have a tie down similar to ratchet type except it is has press release- just pull on it and it locks and is rated at 100kg laod-price about $8 each and have length of i think 2.4m and 4m(at a guess).
cant think of name of it
have used it on 5 litre cans and chainsaw in past and no probs
cheers
fozzy
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Reply By: howie - Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:48

Monday, Sep 12, 2005 at 10:48
don't know if a 'rheem' is metal or plastic, but anyway , i put one of those black recycling cartons on the the roof which fits 3 x 20L snuggly. the carton can be tied down securely easily.
dont forget the top jerrys are used first usually, i re-arrange the roof rack and use the empty carton for carrying rubbish out.
as for aero dynamics, you won't be breaking any speed records on the csr.
have a good trip

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