OME by ARB bushes squeaking
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 18:41
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Ron173
Hello all,
I recently had my Navara kitted out with the full monty OME gear all round, shocks springs bushes etc, the lot cept the torsion bars, to the tune of $1600.
They have settled in good and offer a good ride especially with weight on, however......
The rear bushes which are not greasable, (i asked for these but told not made for navara) are now squeaking like nothing on earth!
I HATE SQUEAKS N RATTLES! ARGH
My question is, do I throw it back at them and create a fuss, do I just need to accept this is the norm, or the one I'm hoping for, will they settle in and stop this squeaking? I have about 8000kms on them now, only started squeaking recently.
Thought I'd ask opinions here before I go into dealer seeking rectification.
Any constructive comments gratefully received,
Thanks
Ron
Reply By: udm - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 19:01
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 19:01
Only thing I can say is, after fitting arb bushes we had to rebush the whole car with genuine ones, the arb bushes started to crack, etc, very bad design or soft compound.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 19:41
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 19:41
Thanks for that, interesting.
Mine are not ARB though, they are Old Man Emu, recommended supplied and fitted by my local ARB.
If they need replacing this early, it will be warranty thats for sure!
They dont seem to have play they just squeak everytime the vehicle rocks a few inches, not good really, I'm pretty much set on going in and asking them to sort it, $1600 is a lot of dollar to me, and its not right.
They all claim to be the best whilst trying to get your hard earned!
thought worth asking here first, incase someone was to say along lines of, oh
mine did that then settled in, but at 8000km I guess the settlings over with.
Time to go in I think.
Rgds
Ron
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Follow Up By: udm - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:48
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:48
Ron, when somebody says ARB, they say OME and viceversa.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: udm - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:52
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:52
Forgot to mention that arb did refund us though.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:51
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:51
Well, there you go you learn something everyday!
I was not aware that ARB were sole distributors of OME
thanks
Ron
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Reply By: ACDC - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:31
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:31
Come on fella's have you not read there advertising! they may the best of everything nothing else exists.
Seriously just go and buy some greasable shackles EFS/TJM problem solved.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:54
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 08:54
Sounds the go.
Or could take them off and drill and tap them and fit grease nipples.
I just feel miffed that I need to do this in such a short time after paying a lot of money.
Perhaps I should take my loyalty elsewhere n go see opposite lock and get some proper ones fitted.
Ron
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:35
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:35
Are these bushes synthetic (polyurethane) or rubber?
Go rubber - the original spec. Urethene are so brittle and harsh.
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:31
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:31
Chrispy,
I agree with your comments, I would like to point out though, the Nolathane which is the harder compound is good I've found for certain streering bushes. My Rangie used to wander all over the place with the OEM rubber bushes, I've fitted Nolathane bushes to the Panhard rod with great success. I'm of the opinion that these harder and hydrocarbon resistant bushes have their place, it isn't in certain
suspension locations. hope you don't mind the input.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:53
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:53
Let's agree again Martyn. They have their place. Steering bushes are about ready for replacement in our TD42T Patrol.... and I think I will go the Nolathane for the panhard rod....hopefully giving a crisper feeling at the wheel. Good advice!
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Reply By: Michael_FNQ - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:09
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:09
What year model is your Navara. Here is a interesting fact I read - after the model change in 2001 - the diameter of the rear upper shackle bush hole in the chassis changed by .4mm.
OME picked up on this change and changed their bush kit to make the bushes marginally bigger. Here is the problem , each bush kit has six bushes - four are almost identical - differentiated only by part number on side but two are .4mm bigger. If the fitter does not know about the difference or does not check it would be easy to fit the larger bushes to the spring and as they are too big they could cause the spring to squeak.
Else get the bushes regreased - they should have been greased during fitment.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:00
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:00
hi,
its a 99 model, they were greased at fitment but are now squeaking, you may be right if they fitted the bigger ones.
I feel like taking them off, drilling into the centre to form a shaft, then tap top of shaft n screw in grease nipples to make them greasable.
Point is, i feel ARB should be doing this, I didnt pay $1600 to be crawling around in grease a few months later.
Ron
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:42
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:42
On the 60series leaf springs years ago, I slipped some "dry-lube" into the poly bushes - never had a squeak after that.
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:49
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:49
thanks Phil,
That sounds good, is 'dry lube' the brand name, graphite or similair I presume?
Where can you buy this, and did you take bushes out to apply?
Rgds
Ron
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:43
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:43
"dry lube" is the brand name - comes on a long stick, and it basically is what it says. Available at all auto parts and accessories
places.
Its designed for bonnet and door catches and the like, but I figure it will not wash out of the poly bushes very quickly.
Unfortunately, you'd need to pull each of the bushes out to apply.
Cheers
phil
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Reply By: Michael_FNQ - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:55
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 09:55
It is easy to check your bushes. All four rear bushes should be the same part no. If you use a hi lift jack to take some load off the spring (not off the ground) you would be able to remove the side shackle plate and check the part no. on the side flange of the bush. Or check your OME warranty form/arb receipt for what part no kit of bushes that were used - should have been OMESB81 - any other part no. and they are wrong.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:45
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 11:45
Thanks for that, checked the warranty sheet, and it was OMESB81 that was fitted. I note the k's though, its actually only done 5000km.
I'm going to take it back into them see what they say when I rock the vehicle and it protests loudly.
Its really bad, its not a small squeak, in slow traffic, like moving up to lights in a queue I need to turn the radio up quite loud to muffle it.
If they wont fix it, not much I can do except never buy OME again, even if they do, it will prob do again in another 5000km, they need to be greasable or made greasable, which is what I will ask them to do, like I originally asked for.
Should be quite simple to drill a grease channel into bush (removed first obviously) then tap a thread into this and then fit nipple on top. Question is whether they will do it or not and if it will be at a price.
Rgds
Ron
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:48
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:48
remove grease and reinstall. squeak gone.
or take them back and tell the fitter to do it. 8000klms the
suspension would have settled by now
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Reply By: wheeler - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 16:08
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 16:08
Why wouldnt you have gone back to them in the first place before making the assumtion they would do nothing about it. By all means bag them here if they dont look after you but, ARB are generally very good when it comes to this sort of thing. I had a OME shock on a trip to the cape last year. It was actually just out of warranty and they replaced it no questions asked. We should all give any company to make good before posting here.
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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:55
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:55
I was asking here, just incase it was common and went away, prior to going to see them, on a perhaps needless trip.
If you think thats bagging them out, wait n see what I say later if they deserve it.
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Reply By: wheeler - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 19:15
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 19:15
"do I throw it back at them and create a fuss"
If you go in with this attitude, there is a good chance we will be hearing back from you., I would advise (for what its worth) that you go in and explain your problem to the manager in a calm way and I am sure you will be happy with the response..go in with all guns blazing and you might not get the response you want.
Cheers
Saab
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