to turbo or not??
Submitted: Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 20:50
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Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast]
Giday all, Ihave a 60 series, very low ks. I,m thinking of putting a turbo in it , but it has bin suggested that the motor might not be ''strong'' enough?? Apart from the comfort, it is a GREAT truck,just a slug...It would cost about $15000 to upgrade to a turboed vehicle,hence the question,all thoughts appreciated
Phil..
Reply By: member snailbait - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:00
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:00
hi
why not buy another vehicle
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:14
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:14
snailbait,
That is my thought, but, if I can turbo a truck I KNOW ,for $3-4000? rather than spend maybe $10-15000 for a truck I don't really know...
But maybe doing my truck is not an option, hopefully somebody can enlighten me. thanks.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:27
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:27
Member messege pesty, he has a turbo on his 2h cruiser. Toyotas did make changes to their turbo motors both the 4l and 4.2 as the standard motor is not desighned for it. As far as I can tell the best thing to do if you turbo a standard tojo diesal is go easy on the boost
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Follow Up By: Billowaggi - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 23:52
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 23:52
Hi all .Boost pressure is not critical, it is how much you increase the fuel to go with the boost that matters. Turbo with 8psi boost and no increase to fuel will give 10% to 15% power increase and combustion will be cooler,just by efficiently burning the fuel that is currently being wasted.As mentioned on other posts exhaust gas temp monitoring is critical.
Regards Ken.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:29
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:29
Thanks for your replies fellas, I won,t be payin $7000 for an old motor!! the reason i.m goin down this track is I am keen[read bloody salivating] on a 89 nissan, SORRY!! exremely good condition, low ks. & EVERY accessory I would want. But I think it is too dear, $21000?? The ''red book'' says abouuuut $10-11000for a good one, that seems to be what is on the yards around here with std. accessories. This one is 4.2 aftermarket td. Thoughts on your value???? Thanks a lot..
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Follow Up By: Jimbo - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:51
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:51
Suggest to the dealer, that when he wrote the price down, he got the 1 and 2 the wrong way around.
21 large for an 89 GQ is outrageous.
Cheers,
Jim.
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 14:59
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 14:59
I paid 18,000 for 1985 60 4 year ago.
It was to much but couldnt let it go.
It was better than new.
Only had 100,000 on the clock.
All the best
Eric
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Reply By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:47
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 21:47
Thanks for that Davoe, will look give Pesty a hoi..
Phil.
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:44
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:44
Phil, forgot to mention your other choice is to hunt down a 12ht motor
( toyota turbo motor fitted to 60 series) which will bolt in and these are supposed to be a great motor, but are hard to find.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:50
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:50
I saw one on ebay with 350,000k for 7 grand WOW
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:58
Wednesday, Sep 14, 2005 at 22:58
Yes davoe, i have heard of them bringing 5-6 big ones for worn out ones?
I would like one to rebuild but at that price will take my chances on turboing the 2 h , ok as long as pressure is kept sensible .
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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:50
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 06:50
I bought 1985 legend of the bush 60 with 100.000 on the clock about 4 year ago.
It had a turbo on it , after market.
You will never regret it.
I sit in 5th gear most
places and what for it you can still over take with accelerration.
I dont know much about the boost thing but the fellow that dyna tunes her looks after that.
He dosnt over boost it or fuel it.
She also has a 3inch exhaust
I put a stronger clutch in her.
All the best
Eric
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:36
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 07:36
Eric, Thanks for that ,I did reply but I stuffed up, it came up 3-4 posts above! whats your thoughts on the nissan mentioned? cya, Phil
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Follow Up By: Shane (QLD) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:57
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:57
I agree with Eric, I have 1983 2H Landcruiser with aftermarket Turbo and it has done 143,000K's since it was fitted in
Townsville by the previous owner. The vehicle has now done 245,000k's & is ultra reliable & whats surprises me is that it will outpull the 12HT up hills. Just don't fit a oil cooler in front of the radiator if it's a manual, as they don't need it & will cause it to overheat. I also run a 2 1/2 exhaust. Go for it !
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Reply By: dazza67 - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 18:28
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 18:28
Get the turbo,i had a non turbo hilux and then got a 3 lt turbo big change!!! i know is not the same make but it makes so much differents
dazza
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Follow Up By: Member - Bill S (NSW) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 19:55
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 19:55
HI Turbo buff, I fitted a turbo to my 80srs at 300,000klms also fitted a fitch at the same time it has now done 500,000 no problems whatsoever but then i had it set up for a 30% gain with dyno check and adjust. But you are right the genuine toyota motor with factory turbo is a differently constructed motor.BUt this is proof enough that the normal motor will handle this increase in power but excessive gains will damage the engine I am sure.So I would advise fit thev turbo to your 60srs but limit the power gains to 30% with fuel and boost adjust to suit,go over this and you are asking for problems
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Reply By: Member - Phil [Sunshine Coast] - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:01
Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:01
Thanks for the GREAT replies,now I know that it can be turboed, it,s getting a 3'' exhaust at the moment[ already got extractors] so I'll see what that does to performance,& than take it from there... thanks again all.. Phil
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Reply By: prado_95 - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 23:37
Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 23:37
A 2H prduces 76kw, the 12HT turbo about 105kw, the 1HZ produces 96KW
My stepfather upgraded the exhautst on his 2H, and now has improved economy and more power. Not 12HT power, but enough to keep the old fart happy without extractors (which are pretyy much a waste of time on that engine).
If you fit a turbo you will need to do the exhaust anyway - do that first, or and fit a 12HT motor (some minor clutch area rework required).
Dave
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Reply By: Stew53 - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:33
Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 06:33
Gday Phil, I’ve had a 60 series and fitted extractors and 3” system and it improved power by about a poofteenth it did make the engine rev easier, I helped a mate install a spritzer turbo on a 60 (after installing a turbo on my 80) with over 200,000 k on it and it went a lot better than my 60 ever went, it also had a std exhaust at the time I drove it.
As far as I I know the 2h is built by Hino and was used in small trucks and forklifts and was often used in industrial applications and often had turbos installed the engine is of solid build and reliable.
I would suggest doing it as the 60 is a good truck and worth hanging onto, if it were me I would install the turbo, mate it to your 3” system, adjust the valves and run the engine on a synthetic oil, and install an engine oil bypass filter, to minimize any more engine wear.
Stew
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