Vic High Country

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Would a soft roader (X-Trail) towing an off road box trailer, be suitable to explore the high country in Nov? Are there tracks of different ratings? Is there a site explaining the different tracks? And no I don't want a real 4wd, can't afford the fuel bill.
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:47

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:47
Don't know about a web site but there are lots of good books. Cant find mine or I would tell you what it is called.

If you just wnat to go u[ into the high country and do a spot of camping there are places you could get ot in a Commodore and places you couldn't. There ae also places you could get ot in a fully optioned hevy duty 4x4 with diff locks and suspension mods and places you couldn't. You simply need to know your vehicle and accept what it can and can't do.

People like Truckster could probably give you more specific info
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Reply By: Moggs - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:56

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 15:56
I recommend you buy this book - it contains conservative track ratings and is a wealth of information:

http://shop.boilingbilly.com.au/cache/item-4public.html?cache=no
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Follow Up By: Vince NSW - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 17:08

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 17:08
Your right about this book & it's track grading. There are a number of great spots where you can get an X trail to, camp, and then explore.
Vince
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Reply By: Member - Russell S - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 16:12

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 16:12
You'll get to good campsites with that setup, and the way they're sanitising the tracks in the high country, you'll soon get everywhere in a commodore, but you'd be wise to know what track you're going up, just in case it gets ugly. I've been caught on a hill towing a trailer, and have encountered others in the same boat. I was lucky that someone else could tow me up, and I recall that the other parties managed to turn around but it was a huge drama. Bottom line - you can get in there along the main tracks, and then explore some of the others once you've made camp and dropped the trailer off. It's a very large area - get out there and enjoy it.
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 16:38

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 16:38
Hi Cuffs

There is plenty of the high country you can se in your x-trail, heaps of it. Plenty of tracks that will take you around.
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:30

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:30
I second the excellence of that book.

I used it to plan my 2002 trip into the high country,Spent a whole months in there alone. Only problems i had were closed gates, something no-one knows until they get there. So I just changed my plans for the rest of the day and took a chance. Then after dinner, I would re map my next days trip over a nice sunset.

Best damn trip i ever did. Lets not forget one thing here...isnt it the excitement of not knowing whats ahead that makes this so much fun ? Or am i the odd one out here?

Go enjoy urself, You will be fine, all u need is food, water, and common sense ! Even with all the above, things can happen but its part of the challenge i recon.
Ange
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:58

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 20:58
I believe the X-Trail does not have a low range gearbox?

I would be most reluctant to tackle much of the High Country in a vehicle without low range - on many tracks it would be quite dangerous to do so.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Crackles - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 22:26

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 22:26
Cuffs there are plenty of tracks an XTrail will get you into. I'd suggest sticking to the old logging roads & avoid all the true 4x4 sections. I drove an early model Subaru up there for years & although it got over many difficult obsticles I burnt out 3 clutches in 75,000 KM, often smashed the exhaust off & put a dint in every panel.
Even on the easy ones they have huge erosion ditches that you would belly out on.
Suggest you base camp then do day trips without the trailer. King Hut, Howqua valley, Talbottville & Licola would be all suitable destinations to explore from.
Be carefull with the track ratings. Athough often specified as easy they asume you have a true 4x4 with dual range & some sort of ground clearance. Often after rain an easy track can become very difficult & that is rarely mentioned in the guide books & maps. Rivers too are running deep in November & I asume you dont have a snorkel. Check out the Rooftop series of maps for good detail.
Cheers Craig..............
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 22:47

Thursday, Sep 15, 2005 at 22:47
100% depends on the weather.
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Reply By: geocacher (djcache) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:25

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:25
Hi Cuffs,

I own the vehicle in my rig pic and a Subaru Forester, having both I certainly wouldn't take the Subaru where I go in NE vic. Several people I know own Xtrails and I have had this discussion with them.

Short of base camping at a few places like Sheepyard Flat, Cobbler Lake, Howitt Plains and Crooked River at Talbotville I would not be getting too adventurous in the Xtrail, especially towing anything. I assume it still has factory tyres on it?? You might get it into Limestone but I think that track even has a few climbs that it will struggle on towing without a low range.

There are many places you can get to on logging ROADs (different to tracks) but the nature of many of the tracks and the routes they take when they put them in means many have large erosion wash prevention jumpups and can be very steep.

With the lack of ground clearance and lack of low range attempting to get up many of these tracks without trailer let alone towing up anything like this could be fatal, or lead to lengthy, expensive and dangerous rescue missions by NRE, Police SES and Ambulance staff. Lack of clearance will be damaging to that particular vehicle on many tracks. A trip from Sheepyard to Talbotville via the Wonnangatta last year saw a Jeep Cherokee (which is more capable than the Xtrail and higher) damage side steps and bend the cross member. Zeka Spur Tk or Hernes Spur Tk being the likely culprits.

The fact that you are asking would tend to indicate that you have little experience in the high country, and that is not a bad thing - we were all like that once - but that combined with encouraging responses can see you attempt that which might not be wise.

As Truckster stated it is also very weather dependent. A track in the high country that is easy in a reasonable vehicle without 4wd engaged can be impassable or extremely dangerous after a summer storm. Water crossings that were barely wetting the rims can also rise to levels above your fording depth with a bit of rain.

VAFWDC is working on a rating system along the lines of ski trails - easy, intermediate & hard. If you are a member - and maybe even if you aren't - they might be able to provide you with some information from the work that has been done already. It is being done in conjunction with Parks Vic I think, so even they maybe able to help.

Ringing Parks Vic's central number you can get put through to area offices such as Mansfield, Omeo, Heyfield etc and rangers at those offices should be more than willing to part with such info and make recommendations.

Have a back up communications plan too if you are travelling on your own, take good maps and even a GPS if you know how to use one and have access to it. There is bugger all GSM (digital) coverage up there. There is some CDMA access around the higher peaks which isn't much good if you can't get to it. Consider hiring or borrowing a Satphone. UHF cb is for short range use in this country, repeaters aren't often accessible. Carry a good first aid kit and know how to use it - good first aid in areas like this can save lives by buying valuable time to allow communication to get helicopter access - sometimes this can involve someone else driving out to get help if you don't take comms seriously.

Happy to help further if I can - especially if it leads to a safe and enjoyable trip in the mountains for you.

All of that said you would increase your options somewhat by leaving the trailer at home.

So all things considered it depends where you want to go.

Dave
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