Turbo for 4.5 Petrol Cruiser 100 Series

Submitted: Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:31
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Hi Guys I have a 4.5 petrol Cruiser 2001 model that I love, however I struggle with the lack of power, Does anyone know of someone around the Brisbane area that is knowledgable on turbos for these engines. I have the Cruiser well kitted out for touring and rock hooping etc and just need more horses under the bonnet. I think it's a boy thing.
Hope someone can help or advise if it is worth doing????
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Reply By: vitara - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:44

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:44
Wouldn't a super charger be more useful, power from the moment you put your foot down no lag, different brands eg sprintex, and I reckon a lot more reliable less to go wrong. Juat a thought. Have a great day Vitara
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Follow Up By: Mad Matt - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:53

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 08:53
Hi Vitara, Unfortunately a supercharger is just simply too expensive, unless you know of someone that can help with a budget of $3-4K
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Follow Up By: vitara - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:05

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:05
Hi there mad matt, I thought the super charging was cheaper then turbo, didn't realize that turbo's are cheaper. Back to the drawing board. See ya Take Care Vtara
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:37

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:37
3 to 4 k dosnt get you much of a blower set up , you really need to spend 6 to 10 k . Piggy back computer and water injection are also a must when blowing
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:07

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 09:07
Unichip, extractors and 2.5" straight through pipe? Probably within budget and will still offer reliability / economy for touring.

Small block Chev petrol eg: GenIII 5.7 (not too sure I'd trust them though) or maybe an old school 400ci mouse motor with an aftermarket Holley injection setup? Will blow the old budget though.

LC V8100 series. The 4.7l 1UZ (?) bent eight is good for BIG horsies and a proven performer.

When I was looking at the CAPA kit for my 4500 Patrol, I think it was in the vicinity of $8,000 which I thought was a fair old whack.
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Follow Up By: Mad Matt - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:14

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:14
Yes I have looked at the unichip, extractors and exhaust and have been given conflicting information and didn't know who to trust. Some say the existing extrctors are fine , just need chip and new mufflers as the pipes are fine and some say replace the whole lot and others say a snorkel as well and some have said not worth the money for maybee upto 10 % tops. Where does one go for good honest advise
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Follow Up By: V8Diesel - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:37

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:37
Mate, I wish I knew. I've spent up big on a number of items over the years and some are great, but an awful lot have left me thinking I'd rather just have left it the way it was and spent the dough on a round the world trip or something like that to be honest.

I spent big $$$ on my GU's suspension and it made the world of difference. I also spent big $$$ on my 100 series suspension and it really did stuff all.

At the end of the day, it makes virtually no difference to the resale value (and insurance values too!) so you have to realise that you're throwing the money away and will never see it again - no matter what anyone may tell you.

To be honest, my trusty and crusty 20 year old HJ75 with a rear locker, 32" BFG MT's and 6.5V8 will go anywhere 98% of all 4x4's can go. I was considering spending up big with more mods / lifts etc, but why bother? It's reliable, OK to drive around town and on the open road, 100% legal, doesn't matter if it gets scratched, is useful for carting stuff round.......etc

Signed: The Jaded Cynic

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Reply By: Ando80 - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:30

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:30
As for cost, quite sure the supercharger at 7-8k was slightly cheaper than the safari turbo which was 8-9k from memory... though it would then do 0-100km/h in about 6 sec's !!!!

I think you'll struggle to get a turbo fitted for under 7-8k as you pay 3-4 for diesels to be turboed and with petrols you need extras like a unichip etc..
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Follow Up By: Mad Matt - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:16

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:16
I just don't have 5k let alone 7-8k so where does noe go from here, who can I trust to provide accurate information. The only way I can think is if someone has already done what I want to do.
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:54

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 11:54
Russelvale turbo in Wollongong make a manifold for $750 and a gt turbo as in xr6 style for 2k, then you need a lot of plumbing and you have 240kw/540nm.
I bought a safari kit second hand off the trading post...suggest you look for one there too..
All the other mods will give you a small improvement, but this mod is balistic...
Andrew
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Follow Up By: Mad Matt - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:33

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:33
Dozer, I would like to find out more off you as in total cost, who did the conversion, boost settings etc. So if you have a minute I would like to hear more
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:41

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:41
Matt , Go with the turbo set up like Andrew had done , I have driven both and owned a turbo cruiser , i would go Turbo again any time before blower ,

Now if you had a 427 and wanted to blow that , Jam your turbos up ya claka and get a 871 lol cheers
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Reply By: ShnogDog - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 15:12

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 15:12
Matt, how good are your brakes now and how much are you going to spend on them? A 2.5 tonne vehicle that accelarates from 0-100 in 7 secs will generate serious momentum. You need to be able to stop too. Cant imagine I'd like to have a huge surge of power coming on boost whilst I'm trying to rock crawl. If you must have more power, look at supercharging. If you cant afford to do it properly, then dont do it. If you want a 4wd rocket, look at a Subaru XT and give up your rock hopping ambitions. Theres always some form of compromise. Me personally, I wouldnt bother.
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Follow Up By: Mad Matt - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:31

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:31
Good point about the brakes, they SUCK!!!! big time, my problem i am used to driving a suped up BA XR8 with 310KW. I must admitt I was hoping to be able to adjust boost for towing, driving around town and 4WDriving, anyway I will wait and see what comes up
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:43

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 18:43
Shnog dog , S/charger is no were near as reliable as the turbo set up in cruisers
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:51

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 17:51
Gday
A unichip would be the answer to the different boost levels..you can set 2 different boost levels, fuel and ignition graphs, which would give you plenty to be smiling about. It is hard to explain how a 4.5 responds to a turbo....if you feather the throttle, it drives sedately like a std one, if you get to 2500 rpm, it starts pulling real hard, and if you get to 5, and there is anything on the road out of the ordinary, it will break out. But the real benefit is at 80 kms/hr, and you want to overtake....which happens real quick, and all this at standard 6 psi boost.
I cant imagine how it would go at 10 psi or more, i do know of a drag car with 295 kw at the rear wheels (400 hp) running 18 psi
Economy is about 10% worse, power up 50%, and torque about thesame on standard boost.
My kit cost 2500 dollars, and after i recod it and installed it, about 4k. It was bolt on.
Lastly, my auto is a beaut rock crawler, the turbo has helped if anything, with such a large motor and no difference internally, it behaves itself till about 2k, but below that has more power and torque than a std one.
Andrew

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Reply By: prado_95 - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 23:19

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 23:19
You wont find either a turbo or supercharger kit new for under $6K to fit the 1FZ-FE engine. IF our lucky you might pickup a used item for about $2500.

Yes it does make a difference, and economy only goes down if you DRIVE it. Expect better than 4.5km/L on LPG. Cant tell you about the petrol consumption because I hardly use petrol.

Alterntively youd be looking at a Chev LS1 or similar engine to get that type of drivability. Your start at about $6K for a basic crate motor, plus adaptors, plus, plus ....

Dave
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