Freewheeling hubs for a 105Series Cruiser
Submitted: Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 10:47
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chump_boy
Just a quick one.
Has anyone changed a 105 Series (constant 4WD) into a rear wheel drive vehicle?
I have spoken to a couple of suppliers, and apparantly there is a problem with buying fre wheeling hubs for these things. I just assumed the equivalent 80 series would bolt in....
Anyway, I have been advised to leave the
wheels as they are, and get a transfer case mod done.
I want to do this mod before getting diff locks fitted, but not sure which way to proceed just yet.
I will post this on the LCool
forum later...
Cheers,
Chump
Reply By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:14
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:14
Chump_boy
Just out of curiosity, what's the advantage of having a rear wheel drive rather then a constant 4WD?
-other then the ability to do circle work :)
R.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:21
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:21
1/ A slight fuel saving.
2/ I am looking at the Lokka (auto locking) diff locks. With a constant 4WD, I need a way to disengage the diffs.
3/ If a front diff breaks, I can disengage one side, and still drive home on the other one.
Cheers,
Chump
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Follow Up By: robak (QLD) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:27
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:27
That makes sense.
Thanks
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Reply By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:15
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:15
AVM make manual free wheeling hubs for the 105 series. Why not contact a dealer and ask what is involved.
Regards, Mark
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Reply By: Redback - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:29
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:29
Why pay for free wheeling hubs then buy a Lokka diff lock an ARB locker is only $1195 plus fitting, i'd amagine that the free wheeling hubs and the Lokka diff lock together would be around the same price and a much better setup.
Baz.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:46
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 12:46
I prefer maual hubs, thats why!...lol
Seriously, The ARB units are around $2000 installed, with a compressor.
I was thinking hubs would be a couple of hundred, the lokka about 5 hundred, with fitting around $1000. Add a compressor, and I am $500 better off than with ARB.
I like the idea of the lokkas, just because there is no input required. No air lines to get caught on things or spring leaks, etc....
Thats just me though. I like manual gear boxes. I like diesels. I don't like electrical gadgets.
Chump
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Bris. - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 15:01
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 15:01
I reckon the truck will have fallen apart long before you balance your expenditure against the fuel saving. Not considering the inherent safety benefits of AWD against 2WD under normal on road conditions.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 19:02
Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 19:02
$2000 for a diff lock!!!!
Why would you spend that over a Detroit locker or Lock right, Once the Detroit or lock right is in it operates by it self and cost’s a chit load less and does the exact same thing!!. Hell, just weld the front diff now it is always locked (: (That is the TA or “tight ass” option).
The only place I would spend the $$ on a air locker is in the rear diff (If not already a LSD) or on a full-time 4WD, Chump boy I see what you a planning and it is a good idea if you will truly be $500 better off.
Also I find full time AWD less predictable, yes it is more stable but at lest in 2WD you know how it will behave if the back swigs out and can compensate for it, AWD anything can happen.
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Reply By: Stew53 - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 08:50
Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 08:50
If you were to install a set of FWH on the front, because of the diff in the transfer case all the power would be lost to the front axle and no drive to the rear axle, so the 4WD switch would need to be engaged to lock the centre diff, to drive the rear
wheels, this in turn would drive the front axle as
well, so a transfer case mod would be required or use a the std wagon transfer case, sound expensive.
I’ve driven my 80 series with the front driveline removed and the 4WD engaged to get drive to the rear
wheels, the car was not as good to drive, requiring more steering angle to make a turn, and with my 60 series rear tyre wear was a lot greater than the front.
IMHO there is nothing wrong with AWD as it halves the load on the rear diff improve steering response and balances tyre wear may even have a positive effect on braking with minimal effect to fuel consumption.
Stew
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