New Hilux

Submitted: Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 19:50
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Helped my next door neighbour to change a tyre on his new hilux the other day, One of the new Coopers was going down slowly. We jacked it up and removed the wheel then tried to put the spare on. The wheel nuts for the four normal alloy 15" wheels are those stepped type used on alloy rims and the spare is a steel rim.
We could not get the wheel nuts to go through the smaller hole of the steel wheel.
The wheel could not be fitted using the stepped nuts no matter how we tried.

I drove him down to the local Tojo man and purchased six normal tapered wheel nuts so we could put the spare into service till the Cooper was repaired.

He would have looked pretty silly 100K's from nowhere with a blown tyre and a spare that could not be used.

All new hilux owners please check on what type of wheel nuts are required by your spare and if in fact the normal ones are capable of being used.

Not happy Jan.
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Reply By: Member - Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 21:39

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 21:39
Hi there Angler, If its a new hilux and it's an sr5 I would have thought the spare would have been the same alloy wheel, that's if it's an SR5 or did your neighbour put after market wheels on it. If not I would have been hitting toyota up for a alloy wheel if it's an SR5 maybe it went missing at the dealer ship and they just stuck a standard one underneath or if they put the wheels on as some sort of deal then I would be going back with receipt for nuts and getting some money for them. What did they cost you $20.00 I dont liked to be screwed by dealer ships. Get your $$$ back for the nuts or a matching spare. Take Care Steve M
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 22:59

Friday, Sep 16, 2005 at 22:59
LOL... Hmmm I'm thinking .. your neighbour (looking really bleep off) walking into the Toyota dealer and telling them to look at his nuts ???
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:48

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 09:48
If Toyota are still putting alloy spares on their vehicles I'd be very surprised. No one else is.

Especially on a vehicle where it'd be so easy for some low life to steal it.

Dave
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Follow Up By: Member - MrBitchi (QLD) - Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:24

Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 08:24
"If Toyota are still putting alloy spares on their vehicles I'd be very surprised. No one else is. "

Pajero.......
Nissan......
Suzuki......

All have alloy spares, probably others too....
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Follow Up By: geocacher (djcache) - Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 15:26

Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 15:26
Huh, there you go. I'm happy to stand corrected.

I thought the "space saver" spare had nearly completely taken over.

I'll qualify my original statement and say instead "nearly no one else is."

Dave
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 17:52

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 17:52
oh what a feeeling.

what did the dealer say about his $40k+ car with a rim that doesnt fit?
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Reply By: angler - Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:23

Saturday, Sep 17, 2005 at 21:23
I don't know if he purchased the ute with the alloys wheels as an extra or if they were standard. He did in fact give Mr Tojo a good serve. He was told to go back to the dealer he purchased the vehicle from.
I imagine he is now doing just that as he left the deep north a couple of days ago.
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Reply By: Ian from Thermoguard Instruments - Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 18:48

Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 18:48
Hi Angler,

Don't mean to doubt you but, are you sure the wheel nuts didn't have a taper on the inner end, for use with a steel rim? That's how the steel spare on our '97 Discovery works - the nuts have the large flat washer for the four standard alloys and tapered ends for the steel spare.

But life would be so much simpler if the lousy b*gg*ers had put an alloy spare on it...
Ian
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Follow Up By: angler - Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 19:59

Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 19:59
The nuts were square on the end, no taper as I recall.

I havent heard from him so I guess he got back to Brissy OK. No news is good news.
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Reply By: AndrewW - Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 20:09

Monday, Sep 19, 2005 at 20:09
Hi,

I have a 2002 SR5 Hilux. It came with standard alloy wheels, including a spare. I have a second set of 4 mud tyres on steel rums, and have similar issues, as I have to remember to take a set of the alloy rim nuts.

The alloy wheel nuts that I have actually have a taper on them and will secure the steel rims if the need arises though.

Are the alloy wheels original factory fitment or aftermarket wheels?? If they are after market wheels, then it would be a normal situation that you need to have some different nuts for the spare??

Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Norm C (QLD) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 12:58
Sorry guys, but I think we have potential new 'urban myth' starting here.

Finally checked out my 05 SR5 in detail today. Here are the facts (with my vehicle anyway):
Yes, the spare is steel, despite the factory alloys on the vehicle
The wheel nuts are the stepped type which are normal for alloys, but the inner end is beveled to fit a steel wheel.
When fitted with a steel wheel, they sit proud by about 10mm, but still pick up the full length of the stud.
Looks a little odd on close inspection, but no more odd than one steel wheel and three alloys.

So the original problem reported was probably either:
The guys didn't recognize that the nuts were OK, or
The alloys were after market (would likely be the case if the 'Lux was an SR, rather than SR5), and the nuts without the bevel came with the wheels.

Still not real happy with the steel spare though. Can't do a proper 5 wheel rotation, so spare will have dramatically different wear pattern to the rest.
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