TD 42 Rebuild or Exchange

Submitted: Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 17:58
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Well the old donk has had it. Only 200,000 km, but very hard (lots offroad), turbo'd + suffering an oil out a few years ago, when the hose to the oil cooler went ... at 100kph. Been noisy for a while and the Madigan trip (7,000km in 2 weeks) was finally the end. No 4 bore is stuffed and wear on the others. Amazing thing is how well it went (apart from oil consumption and noise ), good fuel economy (better than a 3lt new Hilux!), plenty of power.

So any ideas on rebuild/exchange options here in Vic? Worth going for a imported or a Detroit?
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Reply By: Member - toohey - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:43

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 19:43
gid'ay tom
for my money it would be a rebuild from the rite mob; exchange you don't know how many times,been thru it with a 350 chev.
regards toohey
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 20:27

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 20:27
exchange. I made the mistake of a rebuild once and it cost 2wice as much and was still half stuffed. people will say at least you knoew how your motor was treated - well yours was run out of oil there isnt much chance of getting one treated worse than that
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Reply By: Vinnie - Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 21:22

Tuesday, Sep 20, 2005 at 21:22
Know of a bloke in QLD selling a good TD4.2 turboed - done 15,000 ks after a rebuild - and a very thorough joby too.

Have a look on another site - (out of limits) and search parts for sale.

He rolled his GQ to an unfixable state.
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Reply By: GUPatrol - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:56

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 08:56
Tom,
If done properly a rebuild is as good as new, but you have to find a good mechanic...
The good thing about the TD42 is that it has fully exchangeable cylinder liners, therefore no machining is required.
Some exchange jap units are better value though but be aware, a friend of mine replaced his in his GQ after he cooked it and got one from Japan which was out of a bus, it runs OK but the cylinders are badly scoured...
He also had to get a new head for it.
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Reply By: TASPAJ - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 09:51

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 09:51
Gee i would be bleep off if my diesel only lasted 200,00km I guess you can be unlucky. you would expect a good petrol to last 200 - 300thou km but a diesel should last a lot longer than that.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 12:56

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 12:56
Something doesnt sound right

Woop on Outerlimits got 550,000 out of his and was still going strong... His twin locked, 6in lift, etc does some hard work, it fell over a couple of times as well and has done couple of aussie crossings... Oil and filters every 5000klms with Rimula X oil and Genuine filters paid off.

When he removed the head, you could still see the cross hatch marks from new in the bores... Theres photos on OL of the donk.

IMHO, Rebuild your own if you know the history of the donk, is better than gettin something you have no idea where it came from.

But wont be cheap to do it RIGHT, round $7k+ for new sleeves, pistons rings, deck the block etc etc.

Time to go a 6.5 TD chev! or the 6ltr turbo Dodge Ram donk!
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:53

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:53
Truckie,

I'm with you rebuild your own if you have to have the 4.2, but I would defineately look for the 6.5 TD option. Not wishing it on myself, but I can't wait for the same situation to give me the excuse to go for more CC's.

Cheers Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:25

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:25
doesnt sound right? did you read the post - it gotrun out of oil! that will do it most times out of 10 and would discourage me from rebuilding my own
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:48

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:48
Davoe,

I also would be discouraged, that's why my response says if you have to have 4.2 go rebuild, but I would defineately look for the 6.5 TD option.

Cheers Trevor.
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Reply By: Member - Tom M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:05

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:05
About 10 years ago I had a high speed oil failure when a high pressure hose went at speed. I was out the back of the Flinders Ranges and limped back to a phone.

I think I did some damage then. The turbo bearings went a few months later and the engine was noisier.

I was overseas for a while and the truck was in storage, otherwise I thiink this would have been more apparent earlier.

Surprising thing is that the truck went really well apart from oil consumption & noise. Good power & fuel economy. I suspect I scratched the bores around then and it has steadily deteriorated since, with Madigan trip the last straw.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tom M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:06

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:06
I woulnd't mind the Chev except for the $20,000 price tag!
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:59

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 13:59
Tom,

As said by Truckie, it's going to cost you 7 - 10K anyway but for another 5 you should get into the 6.5 lt engine. Even if it's a non turboed version you will still be amazed at the difference compared to our turboed 4.2's. Natuarally this is just my opinion and it is not my money being spent just yet so is easier for me to say "just another 5K". :-)))

Regards Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 14:20

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 14:20
$20k?
Last time I heard brunswick were $15k drive away.
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Follow Up By: Member - Trevor R (QLD) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:16

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:16
Truckie,

That's my thoughts also, 15K for chev and 7 - 10K for rebuild.
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Reply By: Member - Tom M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 15:27

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 15:27
I should have thought of this sooner. I contacted my cousin in Perth who has a truck repair business (duh).

He put me onto SMS diesels, then onto their place in Melbourne. They sell a full rebuild kit for the TD 42 (pistons, rings, bearings, liners, head bolts, etc) for $1,450. Plus labour to fit makes it around $3,500-$4,500 (crossing fingers that the head & crank are ok, which, touching wood, they seem to be). A lot better.

Future thing to remember, check the high pressure oil hoses to the oil cooler regularly!

I'll get back to you how onj it goes.

The Chevy is tempting, but I just put down a deposit on a 2004 WRX so the cash is a bit short ... typical Murphy's Law timing.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 15:36

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 15:36
>> Plus labour to fit makes it around $3,500-$4,500

I see it, but theres no way on earth I'll believe it. Well not done properly anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Tom M (VIC) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 16:12

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 16:12
Thats only if everthing else is ok.

Apparently the TD 42 is used around the world in trucks & buses, which is why there are set re-build kits.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:21

Wednesday, Sep 21, 2005 at 20:21
I'd do it myself - just to know it's done properly. I don't take shortcuts.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Thursday, Sep 22, 2005 at 21:23

Thursday, Sep 22, 2005 at 21:23
It maybe used all round the world (hear the same story on the bleep box 3.0), but not in aussie that I know of, so not sure why they would have rebuild kits here...

Im with crispy, do it right do it once.
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