Used 4.2 GU patrol versus 100 srs cruiser - some help please?

Ooops, I just read the thread below. This is a serious question, I'm not S#!T stirring so some considered replies would be good. Especially from people who have just bought new trucks. What did you look for when buying? How many kms is too many kms on an engine? etc...

I'd say that with the current market, (mainly driven by fuel prices but also the 2nd hand car market in general has taken a slide) the price of used 'cruisers has been bought down to a more reasonable level. I would also say that the product being put out by the Nissan factory is getting markedly better (Geez that hurt to say!) hence their growing popularity (not to say they were never popular! :-S).

Just my thoughts, could be waaaaaaay off the mark tho'!

Scoey

I recently was in the market for a 2nd hand vehicle and although after a tojo i did look in the nissan section of the ads. this combined with not being able to go past 4by ads stuck on windows etc has shown me that although it is sometimes hard making a direct comparison with used vehicles (motors extras etc) there is no significant price difference 2nd hand between the 2

IMHO the Cruiser would be best choice if you value fit & finish, comfort, ash-tray positioning, gauge layout, sexy stereo etc etc.

Only get a Patrol if you're more interested in a bullet-proof drive-train, an engine that'll go all day and never say die and a beast that you can modify to your heart's content.

The Patrol is derived from a TRUCK.

The Cruiser is a CAR on steroids.

Quite simple really. ;-)))

Roachie

well if you can get a live axle 100 series then go for it. I am amazed the prices for the yota are less than the patrol, but if thats so then take the yota and run

diesel dyke

I can't relate to your experience, maybe you have been looking at dealers advertising ex-govt Toyotas, which sell at a discount espec if they are Standards.

The Redbook is the best place to start comparing prices.

Frankly I don't think any of this agonising is worth it becvause they are both big, strong vehicles. Drive both and pick which make and model suits your driving.

Having done that, you can then set out to pick the best of that particular make and model.

Otherwise it ends up a hopeless mess comparing oranges with apples and with pears and with......

EV700

105 series: Better motor, smoother gearbox, better driving position, quieter, more elbow & storage room, better dust proofing, has a tailgate, better spare parts availability and drives like a car.
Pootrol: Narrower (better on a tight track), stonger running gear, easy access to spare tyre & cheaper $$. (Patrol drivers may be able to add to the list but thats all I could come up with;-)
Both can be modified to tackle serious tracks although the Patrol would be my choice for serious wheel lifting / deep bog hole driving as they are narrower & don't have a weak front diff.
For remote area desert travel a 105 series can't be beaten except possibly by a Prado. Quiet and smooth they soak up the KMs effortlessly.

Lets be honest here, the Toyota is more expensive cos it's a better all round 4x4. If Nissan had a better product & back up service they would charge more if they could but they don't.
Does that make the Toyota better value? NO WAY. For your dollar the Nissan wins hands down........
Cheers Craig...........
HZJ105 Vic.
PS. A 100 series is an independant front suspension model & the 105 is the solid axle version. I asume you were comparing the 105 with the GU?

Hi DD
Everyones talking this one or that one.
I just my Patrol 8 weeks ago after a lot (about 7 months) of research into what for would be the best truck to get, that was the 4.2 diesel, live akle vehicle. NO to IFS! it breaks, with or without modifications.
I looked at & drove toya's GXL 100 series 1Hrz the 105's & Patrol GU 4.2 TD's.
The Toya's were straight diesel, so I'd have to look at after market turbo if I wanted a little zing in its step.
Both were/are great vehicles., but I can tell you the Patrol a better value vehicle for the price, I even read a comment from a reviewer who said the toyato GXL was he thought a better vehicle, but NOT $12000 better.
A lot depends on what you want to do with the machine.
As a base the patrol GU is an excellent choice, a strong reliable motor, old design but no computer chips to go wrong if you are thrashing the machine.
The LSD is the best, the front diff is so strong that competion drivers who drive GQ's are putting GU's front diffs in their rigs (I got this detail from a 4wd wrecker who can't keep up with demand).
The GU's have less moving parts figuretivly speaking compared to the GXL; part-time 4wd compared to fulltime 4wd with it's extra central locking diff.
The GU will lend it's self to some serious modifications (fantastic wheel travel etc.) & the price of parts for the Patrols are cheaper than Toya's.
Re: cheap prices for trucks, 4WD's, keep away from fleet, ex-gov, ex-telstra, ex-mining industry, too many driver for the one vehicle, toomany k's for the vehicle & probably nit enough services for the vehicle.

Anyway all the best with you search for your rig!!!
madCrow
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in case it hasn't been mentioned before the 100 series has a live axle in the earlier 4.5 6cyl model.

Surley this argument will go on for days.. doesn't it really come down to horses for courses.. the cruiser ute 4b's are great for the workers etc cause the leaf springs are designed for varying weights blah blah.. the 100 series cruisers are good for on road and dirt tracks cause they are comfy, big and drive nice, and the Nissans are good for the hard grunt as they are built as a light truck and need less mods and are cheaper..
So what is it you want to do with your 4b? As someone above said.. You can't compare apples w oranges w pears etc.. they all have pros and cons.. isn't everyone sick of saying apples are better than oranges.. you want vitamin c or a crunchy taste.. you can't have both...

No worries DD.. Perhaps I came across a bit strong. I love the discussions like this. It is an excellent way to compare notes etc.. I am all for this kind of forum, but I guess I should have expresed being "sick of this argument" a little llighter it was only meant to be a light-hearted quip.. Goodon you for stepping past your ego and not pretending liek you know it all. No one does and we all need to be preapred to ask for help.
I am all for the addage: "Why learn from yourmistakes, when you can learn from someon elses instead... "
Cheers and good luck... it will be interesting to see what you get. Whatever it is I'm sure you'll have a blast..

I thought tojo changed manual gearboxes for a smaller one after about the 78 series.

My last tojo was a bit of a lemon, the previous ones were great. The HJ75 was the best they ever made. Mine had 285,000 on it as it drove out the gate and it's still going some ten years after that sad day. It would sure have some K's on by now.

My pick would be the patrol, they have the well deserved name of "bullet proof"