Fuel consumption

Submitted: Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 13:28
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After reading Glowplugs fuel use without the roofrack I thought I'd check my consumption. I can either be truthful, or gild the lily depending on how I do the figures.
I do have a roof rack and a bazooka.
Speed on the open road (about 60% of total) was around 85-95kph, and around town the usual.

Fuel used, 69 litres
Mileage: Vehicle 577km - GPS 496km.
(31 x 10.50 15" tyres)

Method 1:
Use the odometer in the HZJ75 (4.2L) and arrive at 12 litres per 100km.

Method 2:
Use the GPS odometer and find out that consumption is really 13.9 litres per 100km.

What are others getting?

Banjo (WA)
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Reply By: Scubaroo - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 13:46

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 13:46
Wouldn't your GPS reading be "as the crow flies"? i.e. line-of-sight distance between two waypoints, and useless for fuel consumption calcs?
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:03

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:03
So long as you remember to turn the late model gps systems on, they will measure the exact distance travelled....
I keep mine on all the time and refer to it as a speedo as my in-car speedo shows 100kmh when i am really doing 108kmh...
Is anyone elses GU like that??? Showing less than what you are actually doing??
Normally it is the other way round which gloryfies your litres per 100 measurement..
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Follow Up By: Scubaroo - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:05

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 14:05
That's a massive error! My Pajero shows 100km/h, and the GPS shows 95.5km/h. Only 4.5ks out, and erring on the side of caution.

Have you put bigger tyres on by any chance?
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Follow Up By: Banjo - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:27

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 15:27
Mine's the opposite.

Speedo shows 118km to do 110km according to GPS.

That's why the distance travelled according to my car odo is greater than the GPS odo.

It also means that I'm overservicing the vehicle.

Banjo (WA)
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Follow Up By: Glowplugs - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 18:40

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 18:40
My speedo has an approximate 5% error reading...being too fast.
At 100 on speedo it is 95 on the GPS. I am told that the GPS is to within .01km accurate.

I run 265/75/16's....Not sure what size tyre the GQ came out with but it is a 16" rim.
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:04

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:04
Scubaroo... To answer your question,,,,,, i have the standard 17inch A/T's that come with the car....
I have an 8% speedo error on the good side for some things...
Like when i have done 100,000kms it would have really been 108,000kms...
But i will be underservicing my vehicle by 800k's each time...
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Follow Up By: ToyMotor - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:31

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:31
I wonder if that's true - the speed indicated by the needle may not correspond exactly with the distance indicated by the odometer. In other words, if you held the indicated speed to 100kmh exactly for one hour (impossible I know) would the odo indicate 100 km travelled? The needle is a moving coil meter, driven by a digital to analog converter, whereas the odo counts the speedo sender pulses, so is not subject to the additional errors introduced by the a to d converter, (probably small) and the meter movement.

As a matter of interest, the speedo on my 2001 Troopy indicates exactly the same as my GPS, as far as I can tell. No idea about the odo, as my GPS doesn't do distance travelled.

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:14

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:14
When my speedo reads 100 so does my GPS. But I have installed an electronic speedo adjuster for my bigger tyres. However as I go slower it gets a little inaccurate. When it reads 60 I am really doing about 62. You can't have everything :-)

Sounds like it would be a good investment even with standard tyres for some of you fellas.
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Follow Up By: Glowplugs - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:17

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:17
Hey Utemad........You still driving that softroader lol
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:26

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 20:26
I am for now. Your right though it is soft. Every time I go out 4wding a panel gets another dent. I need tougher panels LOL

Plan on upgrading end of this year. Not sure to what yet but have a few ideas.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ivan (ACT) - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 22:59

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 22:59
My Prado is 'more' correct now I have upsize tyres on..

That is, with standard 265/70 on, speedo = 100, GPS = 96

With 265/75, speedo = 100, GPS = 99

I think you'll find that all speedos are meant to 'over estimate' in the favour of the lower actual speed..
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:34

Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:34
When I upgraded from standard 205/75 16 to 225/75 16 then as you say my speedo got more accurate. However going to 31in tyres was just to much for it.
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Reply By: Frank_Troopy - Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:26

Friday, Sep 23, 2005 at 19:26
Hi Gang,

Don't think that your GPS necessarily gives an exact measure of the distance you travel. Your GPS calculates the distance between the fixes it obtains and it assumes that you have travelled a straight line between these two points. If you are travelling around a curve the GPS actually measures this as a number of straight lines connecting points on the actual path.

Now if the GPS is getting a good fix every 1 second or so the inaccuracy around a curve may only be about 0.3%, however if there are trees around or you have the antenna located such that it needs to change satellites rounding a curve then the under-reading can be quite significant.

If say, you drive around a right angle curve at 110 kph with a radius of 200 metres, a fix every 1.5 seconds will only give an error of about 1 metre. If the GPS gets a fix every seven seconds (about the time it takes to round the curve) then the error will be more than 30 metres, over a distance of about 315 metres.

Over a lengthy drive you should expect your GPS to give a distance reading that is less than the actual distance travelled.

Cheers Frank.

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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 19:50

Saturday, Sep 24, 2005 at 19:50
Actually,,, The GPS i am using at the moment uses street maps to give distances and not (as the crow flys, waypoints),,, so mine if giving actual road distances but i igree with what you say for waypoint gps's...
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Follow Up By: Utemad - Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:31

Sunday, Sep 25, 2005 at 15:31
When connected to mapping on my PC my GPS tracks perfectly around all corners. Even those you described.
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Reply By: sam_84h - Saturday, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:45

Saturday, Oct 15, 2005 at 12:45
Around town i get about 14 when i'm being nice on the highway i can get it high 11's but usualy about 13. i've found the consumption not to change between my 94 and 2000 models, both non turbo's, 2000 has a factory snorkel.

As for your speedo, the 31' tyres are smaller than the standard splits. this causes the wheels to spin faster.

Mine both have standard diameter tyres but i'm a little surprised that this hardly affected the consumption.
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