Coil Springs-King or Ironman

Submitted: Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 20:06
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Posted about a week ago regarding 100LC IFS and upgrading rear coils to carry a heavier load or putting in polyair bags(or similar).Towing off road coromal silohette camper.Some suggested a weight distribution hitch, which is fine, but come off road must be taken off.So I still need something to carry a bit of weight.Has anyone had experience with either King Springs and /or Ironman Springs.Have been warned off air bags by every suspension guy ive talked to as they all see 4 - 5 busted every week during the season (Broome).Appreciate all comments.

Glen

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Reply By: Member. Rob M (QLD) - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 20:15

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 20:15
Glen, I have used King springs on three patrols and have found them to be long lasting and strong. Don't know anything about Ironman though.
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Reply By: glenk - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 20:22

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 20:22
Rob M

Thanks for the reply.Have heard lots of good things about Kings.Leaning this way, slighty cheaper in my neck of the woods.

Glen
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Reply By: Outbacktourer - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:23

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:23
Glen, I've got Kings at the moment, no complaints, but I also have Polyairs on my Patrol for 60K and had them in a Jack of 120K before that. Very effective if you have a variable load requirement. Talking to a few others who have had the bags installed by others (professionals), they have one thing in common; none of them have ever RTFM. One mate had them put in a LX470, was never given the manual and was told to do everything exactly 100% incorrect by the installer. Eg: Load vehicle first, then inflate to max pressure etc etc. Christ knows how they were installed. I sent him back to get the manual. I have no doubt these bags fail but I'll bet a lot of it is user error. I have installed both sets myself, it's not hard and I'm confident the nozzles won't be ripped out or an air hose snagged etc, all of which can happen if you don't do it with your own safety in mind.

Just my 2 bits..
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Follow Up By: glenk - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:16

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:16
Excuse my ignorance Outbacktourer,what does RTFM stand for.Thanks to you(and everyone else) for your comments.Like everything,if you dont start off right,you wont finish right I guess.Might consider putting coils and poly airs in.

Is it necessary do you think to change original shocks aswell.Have done 60000ks and taken it very easy! Will they have enough length?

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Glen
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Follow Up By: Sarg - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:21

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:21
Same as RTFB

Read The F------ Manual / Book
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:45

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:45
Yup, I'll agree with others, I have had Dobinson and Kings, and TJM Series 2k...
I'll go Kings again no probs, flex like abitch!
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:48

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:48
I ad an excellent run from Ironman at a great price and theyre better quality now than then, i'd give them a run.
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Reply By: Trekkie - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:50

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 21:50
Put Polyairs in my LC100 IFS T/D 18 months ago - tow a Kimberley Kamper - It has never handled better (Simpson/Cape York etc) With the Polyairs I have Heavy Duty OME Springs and Shocks. I think the secret is to measure the height, pump up the Polyairs, load the truck and trailer and recheck height - you can then let out some air - becomes trial and error and you will soon know exactly how much air to start with. Have done over 30,000kms - never looked like causing a problem. Probably the single BEST item I have fitted to my truck since we have had the Camper
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Reply By: glenk - Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:33

Monday, Oct 03, 2005 at 22:33
Thanks Sarg.

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Reply By: Redback - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 13:32

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 13:32
Correct me if i'm wrong, (i often am) but don't Kings and Ironman get their springs made by the same spring manufacturer.

Baz.
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Follow Up By: LBartlett - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 13:48

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 13:48
Kings make their own springs in their factory on the gold coast. I'm not sure where Ironman source there springs but they certainly aren't from the same manufacturer.
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 19:51

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 19:51
you way want to guess again lol LBartlett
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 19:54

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 19:54
There are 2 major spring makers here in Oz . Dobsons and Kings , both are good , but no mater how good your springs are , when you over load them , they will sag after a year or so . I usually change springs ,then on about half way through the second year , I add a packer to take up the loss in hight , then go for a new set on the 3rd year.

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Follow Up By: glenk - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 20:03

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 20:03
Thanks guys for feed back.If kings make there own and I can get them cheaper than ironman, there isnt much thinking to do hey!Specially if ironman are kings in disguise.

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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 20:06

Tuesday, Oct 04, 2005 at 20:06
Get a price from Kings , then ring ironman and ask from adam, then call him crazy and then ask for a price lol
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Follow Up By: LBartlett - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:09

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 11:09
Lovell's Springs are also another large manufacturer, they also supply to a number of companies who re-brand the springs.
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Follow Up By: Rock Crawler - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 17:45

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 17:45
In my opinion , lovells are good for lowering cars and not for rasing , my opinion anyway
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Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:30

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 08:30
Just to clear it up

Kings and Ironman are different springs. Kings have a factory on the Gold coast where there springs are made. Ironman coils are not made there.
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Follow Up By: LBartlett - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:59

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 10:59
They certainly aredifferent springs. We sell springs made at Kings here at work and I have a set of Ironman on my 80 series. They are not from the same manufacturer.
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Reply By: Redback - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 13:16

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 13:16
I was half right ;-))))
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 14:54

Wednesday, Oct 05, 2005 at 14:54
red or back?
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Reply By: fourstall2000 - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:23

Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 09:23
Kings are Australian made,Iron man imported from Asia.
Kings repainted are also used by Lovells I believe.
Iron man was initially rubbish,I would think probably better now but Kings can be relied on completely.
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Follow Up By: glenk - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:31

Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:31
Cheers fourstall2000

Have ordered the Kings. I feel a lot more confident now thanks to your reply.Upgrading shocks while im at it.

Glen
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