What stuff is made in China these days?
Submitted: Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:00
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chump_boy
Just a follow on from a comment in a previous post.
Who knows what brand is made where?
I know Waeco is made in China, what about all the ARB gear? Warne? Engel? Black Rat?
Is there anyone out there that knows for a fact where different bits of kit are made? I'm not after brand-name bashing, just looking for the facts.
Cheers,
Chump
Reply By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:13
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:13
Question should be, Whats not made in China
Some ARB products are now made in Thailand
I read your other post in response to some one saying that other brands are made in the same factory, but the expensive one are made on different lines, I had a chuckle..... One line people.
And why not move to China, They are producing fantastic quality products. I have compared same product, 1 made in USA, the other in China, hands down the Chinese product was better quality and finish.
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Follow Up By: ACDC - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:53
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:53
You can chuckle all you like i have been to the factory have you!
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:55
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:55
Chuckle again... Yes i h.ave!! so there
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:57
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:57
ACDC,
I've been there too. I will be there for about 2 weeks in November. I only saw one line when I was there last time ( it was a while ago, I must admit). I'll take some piccies when I go this time.
Do you deal with Jane?
Chump
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:00
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:00
I have some
pic too if you like. But lets not get silly, there are a few factories over there. Wongs and Ningbo being some of the big ones and there are a few others. Chump, I should be there about the same time.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:05
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:05
cool - u staying in Ningbo or Shanghai?
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:09
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:09
Chump
I will let you know
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:13
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:13
Crazie,
drop us an email at chumpion at hushmail dot com
Chump
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Follow Up By: ACDC - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:31
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:31
I don't deal with this company just went for a look, i found a better winch in Taiwan cost more but excellent quality.
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:35
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:35
I dunno. The factory I deal with make a damn good unit.
It also helps if you work for the Chinese government, like I do. They are a bit more open when you tour the factory....
lol
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:38
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:38
I just love a good bleep contest, don't you?
lol
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:40
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 23:40
That bleep should be P ! S S ! N G
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Reply By: Duplicate - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:15
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:15
Engel is made in China.
Most of the ARB stuff is made in China.
Warne
winches are almost exclusively made in China (I think the 15000lb ones aren't yet).
4B gear are made in China.
Michelin tyres come out of China now.
You name it, it is made in China. Just buy the cheapest one you can, with a decent warranty. The innards of most products come out of one or two factories, so it doesn't really matter.
It's gunna to be funny when a faulty part is found in a batch of Repco
winches at the same time as Warne......hahaha
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:26
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:26
Oh, bleep my hubs are made by Warne !!
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Follow Up By: Craig from Engel Australia - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:31
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 20:31
Just a quick reply and as you do see not hiding behind any code names
Engel is made in Japan,All models except MT45FS/MT35FS, these 2 model are assembled in Thailand with Made in Japan parts, these 2 models are assembled by Toshiba, all other models assembled in japan.
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Follow Up By: awill4x4 - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 21:14
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 21:14
(Most of the ARB stuff is made in China)
What a load of bulltish. ARB is manufactured here in
Melbourne and are only now looking at opening a plant in Thailand.
Thanks Craig for an upfront response from an Engel representative.
Regards Andrew. (a very happy Engel user since 1989 and it's still going strong)(even if the old yellow colour looks like pus :-)
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 21:48
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 21:48
Thanks for that Craig - it doesn't actually say that on the engel australia web site - just that the compressors are made in Japan.
As for ARB - I was told by a few people their straps and things are made in China now, and were looking to move more over there. I do stand to be corrected!
Well, thats two things that aren't!
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:26
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:26
HAHAHA...LMAO
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Follow Up By: Member - Crazie (VIC) - Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:53
Thursday, Oct 06, 2005 at 22:53
Sure ARB plant is open in Thailand......
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Reply By: Mainey (WA) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 00:17
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 00:17
The truth is we export our steel to china by the shipload and they have lower manufacturing costs than we do in
Australia, we have to pay premium price for steel and also labour, so our production costs are higher and the finished product has to be sold at a higher price to recover the higher manufacturing costs, which is just simple maths.
Many companies manufacturing products using steel are now having them partly made overseas and finishing them off here, I'm aware of two
fridge manufacturers that are presently investigating the manufacturing process using imported metalwork content.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 01:56
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 01:56
The Japanese and also I think the Chinese claim we cant produce steel to their desired specifications. As for getting stuff made where labour is cheapest - welcome to globalization. Get your stuff made in china and if it busts then the consumer rings the 1800 no and sends their complaint in to Pramadan in India
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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 07:14
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 07:14
It makes sense getting things manufactured where costs are lower. An acquaintance had a business making camping equipment, all local input. After several years he moved the labour intensive stuff to Fiji. Over the last few years he has moved it to China. Had he stayed in
Australia he would have gone out of business long ago because the customers refuse to pay a price premium for Aus gear. You only have to read this
forum to see how keen people are to get the cheapest item.
I just wish we could outsource most public service jobs to India or China as well.
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Follow Up By: gramps - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:14
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:14
That's a damn good idea !
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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 22:42
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 22:42
We already do outsource public service jobs to India. It's just that the Indian people live here.
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