Border track
Submitted: Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 09:23
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Des Lexic
From the Mallee Region Dept Environment and
Heritage office
part of the transcript.
I guess you will have to get in early now.
The
Ngarkat Conservation Park Management Plan discusses the closure of the
Border Track;
'As access along the northern portion of the track is one way (north to south), and there are few opportunities to leave the track, during a fire visitors may be forced to drive directly into a fire front. Those attempting to avoid this by traversing the track from south to north may become bogged and/or sustain damage to their vehicle. This combination of factors also increases the difficulty of search and rescue operations.
To ensure public safety, DEH will not permit public access along the Track from 1 November to 31 March and during periods of high fire danger (as determined by the District
Ranger).'
Barrier gates have now been installed on the track and last summer was the first time they were used to closed track for this reason.
A fee to enter the
Border Track is also discussed in the management plan to help encourage responsible use and provide DEH with information on the number of visitors on the track. This action has not yet been undertaken.
Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:03
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:03
They just don't want us there. Heavens above, we may get struck by lightning so lets close the planet down and live underground in concrete bunkers.
Thanks for the info Al
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:14
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:14
Ray have you built your
bunker yet?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:23
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:23
Just waiting for the foam padding to be delivered.
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Reply By: Dean (SA) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:05
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:05
Sounds fair enough based on that part of the transcript. The same could be said for the entire parks in that case.
Have the car all packed for a few days fishing around chowilla. Ive just got off the phone and apparently its coming down, stay off the tracks was their request, oh
well maybe tomorrow.
Dean
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Follow Up By: Des Lexic - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:52
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 10:52
Sorry Dean, but no point coming up to Chowilla this weekend. No
sign of the rain easing up yet either. The tracks will be as slippery as for the next 3-4 days. The caravan parks will be OK but the river flat mud is just sooo hard to get off. There are
places around
Berri where you can fish and get access to but I don't know if the fish are participating.
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Follow Up By: Outnabout David (SA) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:21
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:21
Hi there Mr Des,
I was at Loxton last weekend but only in the
Avalon. Didn't have a chance to catch up with you although we did have a coffee at the riverbank cafe at
Berri. What a clever design on the buiding and relaxing spot. drove a bit through Katarapko but only in the car didn't venture too far. Roads were wet on the edges then so they will get a hammering with this rain. Catchya next trip up there and glad you had a good holiday
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:01
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:01
Good stuff, I see 12mm at Loxton so far, looks like the
Yorke Penn did best from this system with up to 30mm recorded, into nothern Vic now and southern Vic this arvo.
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Reply By: 944runner - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:02
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 11:02
This is getting crazy, is there going to be any
places left to go???
When is the track open then, I thought they closed it over winter when it gets a lot of rain to stop 4WD's damaging it?
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Follow Up By: Ken - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 15:47
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 15:47
You're right it is crazy. It is closed sometimes because it is too wet, the clay sections you know, sometimes it is closed because it is too dry, damages the sand apparently, now it is going to be closed because there might be a fire. Lucky a flood is not on the cards or that would see it closed all year round.
Mind you they have had some serious sized fires there, burnt most of the place over the last few years in what is the easiest of areas to cut firebreaks and quickly isolate a fire, but they sit back and watch it go. None of your nasty bulldozers in here, no real firefighers required thanks, we'll sit back and watch it burn then call it a natural event.
Be interesting to see if you are allowed to walk in the area over this period, if the concern was really for public safety there is a fair risk to anyone walking in the area you'd reckon.
Ken
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Reply By: Ken - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:06
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 12:06
Folks, this is the sort of rubbish that infuriates me. The Local land manager seems to be using every opportunity to close this area. Earlier in the year he introduced track closures on a whole lot of crap about low soil moisture and potential track damage ! The bloody place is sand !
The Vic 4WD association has tried to reason with him to no avail, he is after all in South Australia. The SA Assoc has a lot of work to do to protect tracks in that state and a few weekends snipping bushes is simply not enough.
The rubbish about being trapped trying to drive south to north is a joke. Before all the meddling started you were able to drive in either direction. This kept the track in far better condition as there was effectively about half the traffic in each direction and the coasting down
hill had a smoothing effect on the ruts and steps. Thanks to the uninformed mob that were so keen to curry favour with the SA Parks people the track was turned into one way for most of its length despite the effort of a joint SA/Vic working party. On top of track damage now fire risk is being touted as a reason for closure.
Well done people, keep trimming the bushed for them, they think you are doing a great job.
Ken
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 17:49
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 17:49
Many (all?) of the people going into these soft government jobs in the "Bush" departments will have degrees in "Environmental Management" or something similar and equally silly and they will have acquired some pretty Greenie thinking during their education and they will put this into practice in their jobs - expect to see much more of it. The question is: what are you all going to do about it other than bitching on this
forum?
And, on that note, how many of you will be opposing the Vic state government's attempt to prevent hunting in state forests? They'll just keep snipping away at us unless we fight ALL attempts at legislation – you don't have the option to pick and choose, all that will do is delay the day until _YOUR_ interest is regulated.
Anyway it sounds as if packing the big inverter and the angle grinder is in order for
Border Track trips.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 22:57
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 22:57
Good to hear the rain up that way Des, hope the river rises a bit but do I bring the kayak up that way for a paddle? Seems like I give the
Border Track a miss this time.... Glad we didn't take a trailer along it to make it worse
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Reply By: sudsy - Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 23:01
Friday, Oct 07, 2005 at 23:01
(QUOTE) 'As access along the northern portion of the track is one way (north to south), and there are few opportunities to leave the track, during a fire visitors may be forced to drive directly into a fire front. Those attempting to avoid this by traversing the track from south to north may become bogged and/or sustain damage to their vehicle. This combination of factors also increases the difficulty of search and rescue operations.'
I think he is referring to the possibility of a head on collision with an emergency vehicle if one was to turn back or get stuck across the track and preventing emergency vehicle access. Although I think this is at the low end of the likelihood scale the department is obviously looking at the possibilities, not the likelihood.
Me thinks it is also looking at the cost and hassle of rescue's.
Personally, I cant see how a conventional CFS truck would get through the track anyway as our local police testify to occasionally winching out bogged fire trucks but there are some 4wd ones around here now but I could'nt see them either getting over some of those sandhills.
I just hope they dont go overboard with these closures everywhere as our kid's love getting out there and exploring too.
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Reply By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:10
Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:10
Hi all,
I have just spoken to the DEH and have been advised that the process for public discussion on this Management Plan has already been formalised. I have made arrangements to receive the formal outcomes in regards to the
Border Track and will update the
Border Track Trek Note
on this site once analysed.
Thanks Des Lexic for the heads up on the issue!
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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:44
Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 12:44
If you speak to the
Ranger he says he's closing it on the 15th Nov.
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