One day... methanol fuel cells for 100aH/day

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:01
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Jenny was flicking through a fishing magazine at the chiropractor's last night and came across a fuel cell that runs on methanol and puts out 300aH's worth of power from just a couple of litres of methanol. The only by-products are CO2 and water. It's very expensive at over $10,000 ....... but one day might come down in price to something affordable for camping. If it ever comes down to less than a couple of grand - it'd be as cheap as a good generator (without putting out all the crap) or a medium-sized solar system that only works well on a sunny day. Here's the article wording:

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Max Power's award-winning 'green' power alternative for boating, the MFC 100 Marine Fuel Cell, works by converting a combination of methanol and oxygen into electricity. It produces very low levels of toxic emissions, and has been awarded the Dame design award at the Marine Equipment Trade Show in Amsterdam and an innovation award at the Paris Boat Show.

The cell runs on methanol fuel, with one cartridge providing 300Ah of electricity at up to 100Ah of energy per day, enough to power most electrics onboard a boat. This reduces the need to run engines for extended periods of time in order to constantly recharge the boats batteries, and because the fuel cell provides power as required, the house batteries are not deep cycling, so their life is also prolonged. Max Power claim the unit is extremely quiet as it has no moving parts. The only byproducts of the cell are a very low level of carbon dioxide and water vapour.

The cell is priced at $10,800. For more information contact Max Power, tel 1800 029 948 or visit www.oceantalk.com
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Reply By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:04

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 09:04
Oh!..... and before I get any comments suggesting that I'm pushing oceantalk's product - no, I don't work for them. I just find the technology interesting and maybe relevant to both 4WD'ing and for our country property......
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Reply By: porl - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 12:16

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 12:16
hmm, i think i'll put a gold lotto ticket in tonight.

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Reply By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 13:00

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 13:00
There's a wide variation in the stated life of the cell stack, min 1500 hrs to possibly 5000hrs, the stack wears out at a rate depending on how it's used much like a battery but it can be replaced. I've emailed them asking cartridge and cell replacment costs.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 13:05

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 13:05
Should be interesting to see what consumables cost for it. I wonder if you can just top up with easily-available methanol.... or whether you have to buy their "cartridge" as such?
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Follow Up By: Mad Dog (Australia) - Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:26

Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 09:26
ok, I've received a reply:

Dear Ray,
Methanol for refilling your fuel cartridge is approx $1 per litre. A 5L fuel cartridge will supply 300Amps of power.
The fuel cell itself will require servicing every 5000hours of so of actual opperation. Cost to do this will be approx $1500.
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Follow Up By: Member - Chrispy (NSW) - Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:15

Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 10:15
OK - so that's 208 days of continuous operation. If you could run it just when you required it - (say at night for 6 hours during winter) it'd go for nearly 2 years 3 months between services. If it was only being used to charge an array of batteries, then this will differ again.

Not bad all up I wouldn't have thought.
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (QLD) - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 09:52

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 09:52
How about an 4WD with an electric motor to replace the engine rather than having electric motors in wheel hubs etc.?

I'd like to have an electric troopie with 2000km range. Maybe someday!

Site below has hybrid cars but also vehicles with standard engines replaced by electric and battery pack.

http://www.hybridtechnologies.com/company.php?sec=profile-rc

Alan
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