Plug Replacemant LC 100

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 17:23
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Symptom: Engine idles smoothly, in park when in drive engine misses, under light accel engine misses.

Could be plugs????

99 Model Petrol Auto 55k.

How does avge joe get to the back 3 plugs without sitting in engine bay or removing the bonnet?

Regards
JD
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Reply By: AT4WD ADVENTURES - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 18:02

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 18:02
Hey JD,

Check that there is no water sitting down those long spark plug holes shorting out when current hits the plug top. Had a similar problem in my 100 series. Put the plug spanner down the hole pulled it out and was wet. Front cylinder in my case.

Stuart
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Reply By: Treading Lightly - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 18:10

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 18:10
Thanks Stuart,

Have taken out No 1 and 2, can't reach the other 4. Both the ones I tok out look OK at the pointy end but the body of both looks a very dark brown burnt colour. The have been in since new, Done 55K I would suggest new plugs might fix the prob. But will have to wait till monday and have Mr Toyota have a look.

Regards

JD
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Reply By: Exploder - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 19:12

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 19:12
You are talking about the electrode end yes. I.E the electrode is a brown/grayish-tan colour then this is normal for used plugs and thay are running fine.

If you have deposits or Glazing on the plugs then this is another problem and depending on what sort of deposit will help point you in the right direction.

I would change the plug’s and see how that goes then start looking at lead’s, O2 sensors, MAF sensor, Fuel system, emission control.

Possibilities include.
Clogged fuel filter
Incorrect ignition timing
Stuffed leads
Emission system playing up
Bad compression
Faulty coil/ distributor or PCM
Dirty fuel injectors
Low fuel pressure
And a few other things.

These are just general things that may cause what you are describing, I am no Toyota mechanic, so perhaps somebody who has had this problem before on a 100 Series will come out and say exactly what it is.
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Follow Up By: Treading Lightly - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 19:44

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 19:44
Hi Exploder,

No actualy is was talking about the porcelian body of the plug. Down towards the thread end the porcelian is a dark brown.

The car was running fine and then halfway up a small hill it started shuddering as though one plug was missing. My main issue is how do I get to remove the back four plugs without taking off the bonnet?????

Regards

JD
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Follow Up By: Exploder - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 20:13

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 20:13
I would try a uni-joint or 2 with extension piecers on the socket wrench. I would say if it look’s like you need to remove the bonnet to do them then that is what you need to do.

Manufactures have a habit of not thinking about access for maintenance. I.E on my car it look’s as if I need to take the left hand front tire off and come in through the side of the wheel well to get access/ the right angle to change the sparkplugs on the left cylinder bank. Thank god they only need to be done every 150,000k’s.

As for the Porcelain bit being a brown colour, that weird, what does the electrode look like it is possible that maybe the plug’s that were installed were not of the right heat range.
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Reply By: Col_and_Jan - Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 21:15

Saturday, Oct 08, 2005 at 21:15
You dont have to remove the bonnet to replace the plugs, but you do have to remove some of the gear which covers that central area. PITA, so I guess this is why they use the special - read expensive- plugs (try for trade price at Repco) so you dont have to replace them so often. Also check your filters (air and fuel).
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Reply By: Rock Crawler - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 08:11

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 08:11
If you cant change plugs obn a hundred series , i would have hatted to see you try a ford XC V8 with air and steer lol .

What do you meen , I dont want to get into the engine bay ?

Get in there son , and you will see how easy it actually is . I wasnt able to change number 0ne plug withought getting into the engine bay lol on my cruiser
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 21:33

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 21:33
Stand on a milk crate or better still, use a step ladder and climb onto bullbar.
Put a towel or blanket on guards so belt buckle / rivets on jeans don't scratch duco.
Remove the air inlet crossover pipe.
Undo the two covers over the plug leads.
Undo the ignition leads seperator brackets that are bolted to the top of the rocker cover.
Remove leads (grasp firmly at the ridged top section, some may need multi-grips if tight)
Thoroughly blow out plug recesses with compressed air FIRST as any accumultaed crud will go stright into the combustion chamber when you take out the plugs.
Use a plug socket with the rubber retainer grommet in it.
Remove and inspect sparkplugs.
Renew if necessary.
Follow procedure in reverse to reinstall.
Test drive.
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Follow Up By: Treading Lightly - Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 16:00

Monday, Oct 10, 2005 at 16:00
Thanks to all who replied with info. After replacing the plugs after much back breaking, bending, twisting, swearing and meetings with bank managers to increase the mortgage it was still the same.

Off to the experts, their diagnoses THE IDLE MOTOR IN THE THROTTLE BODY.

Fixed!!!!!!!??????

Regards

JD
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