New generation turbo diesels

Submitted: Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 19:11
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I see that the latest high tech turbo diesels (Discovery & Pathfinder) are producing 50kw/litre and 160nm/litre. If this flowed through to Nissan and Toyota for their 4.2 litre models we would see some great tow vehicles with excellent fuel economy. 210kw and 670nm would just about pull the trailer from under my boat.

Now about that Landcruiser V8 twin turbo diesel?

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Reply By: Bob of KAOS - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 20:31

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 20:31
I just hope the metallurgy (big ends, rings, pistons, cylinder bores), and lubrication is being improved along with the fuel metering/induction systems. I can't help feeling that while huge outputs can be extracted (eg 200 kW from a chipped TD5) longevity may suffer. The other point is that increased power equates to increased ability to turn dollars/diesel fuel into CO2 ie power and torque don't come out of thin air
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Follow Up By: Topend - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 20:42

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 20:42
I believe the new diesels produce less emissions with high injection pressures and more complete burn.

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 21:51

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 21:51
The big problem as I see it is that they are not servicable on the side of the road by the average owner, suffer from silly sensor/electrical problems and parts are horrifically expensive (ask any common rail diesel owner how much an injector costs). It would also appear that they aren't made to last any considerable period of time or do lots of k's. As mentioned basic things like injectors cost a bomb, cannot be serviced and can be ruined by crook fuel, not much help if you regularly refuel from drums and jerries or overhead tanks on a property or expect the vehicle to operate in adusty dirty environment. ( hang on didn't you buy a 4wd to take it away from suburbia?)
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Follow Up By: Topend - Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 22:18

Sunday, Oct 09, 2005 at 22:18
Reliability and parts availability is a concern but these vehicles will probably become our only option in the years to come. I currently have a LC100TD which has electronic injection. You could place this in the same catagory along with the 3 litre Nissan. If it stops call a tow truck. Having said that I have had my vehicle for almost 3 years and have travelled 140000kms with nil problems. I personally look forward to the next generation Landcruiser and hope it offers the latest in technology. The manufacturers just need to do their testing to ensure reliability.

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