99 2.8 td rodeo clutch problem
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:05
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Dan
Hi all, i think my clutch is on its way out, when changing into 2nd it sometimes takes a reasonable amount of force and never seems slide into 3rd very smoothly. Car has done 100,000 k, including a reasonable amount of gravel road use.
If im up for a new clutch, does anyone know how much a kit will set me back and where to pick one up. btw im in W.A
cheers
Dan
Reply By: Dan - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:08
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 01:08
Forgot to Add....
Can anyone recomend what brand off clutch to get, heavy duty etc...??
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Reply By: guzzi - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 07:43
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 07:43
dan,
have you tried bleeding the clutch master and slave cylinders? and see if that improves things.
Also try changeing the oil in the gearbox to a 15w 40 type ENGINE oil and see if the shifting improves.
Both of the above are easy and cheap.
Call repco for a price on the kit.
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Reply By: Member - John C (QLD) - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:19
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:19
I have always associated the clutch plate wearing out with clutch slip.
e.g. it starts getting engine revs rising with throttle like an automatic, even when you don't have your foot on the clutch pedal.
Or when you start on a
hill, the engine sounds like the clutch is still slipping while your foot is off the clutch pedal.
This 2nd and 3rd problem, is going up into the gear, or coming down into that gear?
If what you are describing only happens in 2nd and 3rd, sounds more like the clutch not disengaging properly, (see the suggestion above on the hydraulics) or something in the gearbox, or maybe a gear shift linkage problem.
What is it like going into 3rd double declutching? Or not using the clutch and just matching revs? I wouldn't try the last one if you havn't done it before! It does take some experience and feel.
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Follow Up By: Dion - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:16
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 22:16
My 2.8, I'm only trying to use the clutch for starting and stopping, making clutchless gear changes in between.
It is not that hard or scary, the Isuzu boxes are pretty forgiving and it doesn't take much to master it.
I find in the mornings when you always traditionally have trouble changing into second with the clutch, matching revs and a little pressure on holding the gear lever above the second
gate will fall in, as opposed to the extra force required when using the clutch.
Go on give it a try, you'll be pleasantly surprised by how easy it is.
Cheers,
Dion.
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Follow Up By: Member - John C (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 16:41
Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 16:41
Dion,
I know, not that hard, just a bit of experience.
First had to so it when I had clutch fail completely.
It is just a matter of timing and feel.
Also useful for changing from high range to low range on the move.
But I know some who can not do it even when they try!
So thought it better to be conservative and not risk some one wrecking a gearbox :0).
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Follow Up By: Steve M - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 19:23
Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 19:23
I'm not sure that not using the clutch is a great idea in the long run. I reckon this would cause your syncro's to wear prematurely
Steve
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Reply By: Tanka - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:56
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 08:56
Could be clutch pressure plate. However, bleed clutch as suggested previously and change gearbox oil. I have found that for brake and clutch parts, that the little specialist shops that repair only brakes and clutches are the cheapest. Its worth ringing around. But forget supercheap auto. They once wanted to charge me $1,000 for a clutch kit which I ended up getting from specialist
shop for $550.
Tanka.
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Follow Up By: Tanka - Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:40
Wednesday, Oct 12, 2005 at 09:40
Check the postage price & availabilty of exchange. (in case it doesn't fit.) Then compare with local cost. Nothing wrong with PBR clutches.
Tanka.
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Reply By: Member - Nick (TAS) - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:37
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 12:37
When bleeding the clutch,I believe on that model Rodeo there is a
junction block half way between the master cylinder and the slave cylinder that has a bleed nipple on it as
well.Make sure you also bled this.
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Reply By: darcla - Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 19:47
Tuesday, Oct 11, 2005 at 19:47
Hi Dan . I have one of these & the Pedal free play is critical sometimes the lock nut on adjustment comes loose & creates problems . I fitted a clutch kit from
Adelaide Clutch co. They claim there kits have 40% more clamping power than others .Got
mine landed in
Geraldton by air freight Approx $365 + 67 freight & was Quoted $720 for Heavy duty PBR trade price from repco . That was 3 years ago & am very happy with it as it has done alot of work since then . There is a or was a guy in
Perth who was agent for them his name was Tony Flood Ph No 94721800 .Was more conveniate for me to go direct their ph no is 0882342222 The guys name was Brenton .Hope this is of some help .
Cheers Bungarra
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Reply By: rodeo99 - Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 14:32
Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 14:32
Hi Dan,
i recently had a clutch slave cylinder go on me in the middle of the flinders, no real stress. The part was relatively cheap, $56.00 (outback price) and was easy to fit. when i returned home, i replaced the Mastercylinder also.
Good Luck with it.
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