new highlux single cab

Submitted: Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 19:40
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G'day,
I'm looking at going from a Prado wagon to a new Highlux desiel single cab so I can set it up with a lowline slide on camper....Trayon
This idea has only taken shape recently,and because I have been perfectly happy with the Prado have not been buying/reading 4wd tests.
Now the situation has changed and would appreciate any feed back about the Hilux.
It will be used for touring, travelling via fire trails, and will have a hard life.
thanks in advance...
cheers
joe
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 20:11

Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 20:11
Put it off till the second generation hilux arrives, they will hopefully have most of the problems sorted out by then.
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Follow Up By: Brew69(SA) - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 07:04

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 07:04
What problems are people discovering? Apart from the fugly aspect.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 22:48

Saturday, Oct 22, 2005 at 22:48
Joe,
I was in the same situation as you.
I also have a bunch of Prado mates who now have the 79series traytops with various canopies and campers. We chose the 79series over the Hilux because it is a stronger vehicle with a greater payload. Most of us have also got the 6 cyl TD motor and rigid front axle. Are you sure you wnat a Hilux for this application?

Also theres a few people with the Trayon on the traytop-camping group

Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Outback Rick - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:21

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 11:21
G'day Traveller Phil,

How was the trip??

Guess you must be busy marshalling your notes prior to a trip report here on EO..........................hint ,,,,,,,,,,,hint

Cheers

Rick (S.A.)
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 14:41

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 14:41
Gday Rick,

The trip was an interesting combination of heatwave, idyllic weather followed by rain and hail!! But we really enjoyed it, and had some great experiences.

Will now leave you in the lurch until I write it up :-)
Just cleaning off the mud this morning. Happy Wash at Torrensville was a real mess after I finished with it :-))

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Joe - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 18:17

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 18:17
Hi Phil wrote...
"Are you sure you wnat a Hilux for this application?"

Hi Phil short answer is no....not sure....
1-However I do like idea of 8-10 lt per 100 from hilux desiel engine.
2-I have come to love the automatiic in my 120 Prado having had a manual 4by previously...so looking for auto
3-The Hilux comfort factor maybe more akin to the Prado.
4-I do not think i can get auto in the 78series
5-I rode in a troopy a couple of months ago in WA and compared to prado....well the ride/comfort just did not compare...so i guess the new 78 series would ride same/similiar to troopy
6-THe trayon weighs in at 360kg, so still plenty of pay load capacity i trust, and i would get suspention upgrade anyway.
7-The other option might be a nissan patrol if auto available in single cab.
So the likes of Trayon i'm sure is the way to go,but what to put under it is still unclear...and the points above may/maynot be acheived/right
cheers
joe

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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 20:27

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 20:27
Hi Joe,

#1 Yep I understand the new Hilux diesel motor is more economical than the 1KZ-TE that it used to share with the Prado. But you get 180litre tanks with the 79series vs 76litres on the Hilux.
#2 Yep, can't get an auto with the 79series.
#3 Comfort..... My 79series rides better than my 90series Prados when loaded on a trip - it has a much longer wheelbase, and coil front end. And I fitted Recaros.
#5 Theres a difference between the all leaf 75series Troopies and the coil front 78/79series. Unladen, both Hilux and 79series can bounce around.
#6 The trayton is a great unit - looked hard at it myself, but preferred to custom my own setup in the end. Amazing its only 360kgs, but when we add all the water and extra fuel etc for desert trips, it weighs a lot more.
#7 Didn't think you could get an auto Nissan traytop. They come with coil or leaf spring option - theres a big difference in payload, and the rear coil spring towers are known to crack.

Best of luck with all your research. I'm sure you'll get a vehicle that suits.

Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Joe - Monday, Oct 24, 2005 at 10:00

Monday, Oct 24, 2005 at 10:00
Phil,
I like your feed back about the ride/comfort compared to your earlier Prado.
a few more questions if you can thank you....
What consumption figures do you get from your 79 series.

What is difference the between 78 and 79 series....sat in the 78 at the show.

Can you discribe what you custom built....given your design builing skills.....my biggest issue is my balance and the steps/access into trayon handle that evectively.....compared to ladder types.
If it was not for balance I would go for some type of roof top/poptop on the prado

Have hearing loss, one eye faulty, and a foot/back injury...so ladders I can climb, but feel very unbalanced, and getting dressed without being able to stand up is an issue.....these are all minor hurdles to manage in intersts of getting out on tracks and camping....so if you are aware of design ideas that are more suited to the needs of a body with few issues, please advise.

I also like the old body style of the 78 and comanding driving postion over the bonnet.

Might have to test drive the 78 series next step and forget about auto for this camper concept.

cheers
joe

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Reply By: Peter 2 - Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:49

Sunday, Oct 23, 2005 at 10:49
There have been reports of body cracks on the front guards, B & C pillar cracks near the roof too. Do search on Exploroz as it has been mentioned before.
I've seen pics of the B pillar cracks taken on a recent outback trip. On normal film (slides) so am unable to reproduce.
Remember too that the hilux and most if not all the jap utes are no longer built in Japan but in Thailand, ask any late model rodeo owner about build quality. The build quality is nothing like a Prado on the ones that I've looked at.
My son has a new (now 12 month old) courier ute for work and it is nowhere as well built as the earlier models.
As has been suggested a 79 series would be a much better proposition but they too have there probs caused mostly by ever increasing attempts to cut costs, decrease weight and keep the life expectancy shorter so they can sell you a new one every few years.
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