Fuel problem/EFI

Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 14:29
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Hi all,
I have a 93 ford courier EFI 2.6 4x4, with a custom long range tank.
When the fuel level gets to about 1/4 a tank left..40L or so....when going down a hill and having to brake at the bottom, the motor sounds like it wants to run out of fuel nearly stalling, and sometimes does. The new internal electric fuel pump is submurged with this amount of fuel in the tank. The fuel pick-up is about 1cm of the bottom of the tank.

It is like a surge but in reverse...LOL

Any advise will be greatfully absorbed.
Thank you in advanced.
Brian

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Reply By: Exploder - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:02

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 20:02
Where is the Fuel Pick up located in the tank? , If it at the back of the tank and you are going down a steep hill, that is probably the problem.
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Follow Up By: brian-deb - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:04

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:04
Yes the pump is at the back, in a "swirl pot", never use to have the problem though. Seems to have just started from nowhere..
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Reply By: Brett_B - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 22:22

Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 22:22
Hmmm, you havent got water in the tank ?

Although water would do it all the time when the tank was low not just down hill.

I have picked up water from some out the back servo's a few times during my travels, when the tank gets low it the car starts to miss, surg, pop and bang :-)

A bottle of metho cleans it up in one eazy go :-)

Brett
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Follow Up By: Member - John C (QLD) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 08:07

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 08:07
I usually only put a cup of meths in max. Sometimes just a cap full.

A whole bottle in one go would be interesting!
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Follow Up By: brian-deb - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:06

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 10:06
No water in the tank.....
many thanks though....
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Reply By: ColinD - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 17:48

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 17:48
Brian. The amount of fuel in the tank may be simply a coincidence ar a red herring. The throttle position sensor adjustment is very sensitive, and even if slightly out will cause surging as it trys to switch the ECU from an idle measssage to part throttle. The publication states that this adjustment is not to be touched (factory set), but I had success with my own 96' courier and two others that I worked on. The method of adjustment I used was to rotate the TPS until the rpm rose (part throttle signal) then rotate the oposite direction until the rpm falls to idle plus a little more. Check by making sure that the engine changes smoothly from idle throghto mid range throttle without any sudden jumps, especially just off idle. Hope this helps.............col
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Follow Up By: brian-deb - Friday, Oct 28, 2005 at 18:25

Friday, Oct 28, 2005 at 18:25
Col... thanks mate for your davise...I think you have hit the nail on the head...I will follow your instructions and see how I go...

cheers Brian
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Reply By: madlee - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:35

Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:35
It is possible that when the pump was replaced,the fuel guage sender was bent slightly and your fuel is well less than 1/4 .If the swirl pot is working ok it should keep enough fuel around the pickup until you are just about out of fuel.goodluck.
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Follow Up By: brian-deb - Friday, Oct 28, 2005 at 18:32

Friday, Oct 28, 2005 at 18:32
LOL madlee, good point mate, however, the bloody sender unit has gone mad..showing omly empty , then when it is out of the tank and tested will work fine...Must be a earth issue, but have not yet worked it out...
I knew the fuel tank had 60L in after I drained it to try to fix the sender unit and check the pump..
Thank you for your coments mate
Brian
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