LED light globes in tail lights
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 23:36
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muzzgit (WA)
Good evening all. Last night I was travelling behind a standard 100 series cruiser and was very surprised how
bright the brake lights were. As I got closer it appeard that each brake light lense had about 16 LED's in it. They were very
bright , and I would love to put some in the Patrol. But the question is, are they infact LED's or fancy new reflectors with one standard 12v globe?
This was not a brand new 100 series judging by the dust and general condition of the car. I didn't follow this car long enough to see if the indicators were the same.
Any news I missed out on?
Reply By: joe1 - Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 23:46
Tuesday, Oct 25, 2005 at 23:46
Hi there muzzgit,have a look at this link gives you a bit of info on what you may be after.
http://www.ledshoponline.com/.
Regards
Joe
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Follow Up By: muzzgit (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 00:07
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 00:07
Cheers for that joe1. I think I'll wait till they come down in price a bit. They will be good on the back of my Jayco camper as the standard brake/indicator is very hard to see during daylight. May also be good with the 12v lights inside the camper.
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Reply By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 01:23
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 01:23
Muzzgit,
I fitted two to my GU, sorry to say I was disappointed with the performance, brake lights were significantly dimmer than the standard lights in day light. I've gone back to standard globes. I'm not going into brands etc. I tried them in my camper trailer but they hang vertically in the holder which made things even worse, the globes have to be horizontally mounted to work effectivly.
Sorry, for me a waste of time and money.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 09:55
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 09:55
Martin, perhaps they ssupplied you with the tail lights rather than brake lights. I have them combined in the way I have them set up to cover a dent from a tree on the back of my camper box.
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:31
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:31
John,
They are combined stop and tail lights so it's not possible to get them the wrong way round, there is a marginal brightness difference between them, not a lot, can be quite dangerous during daylight hours.
The third light in the middle of the back door saved my rear end a couple of times. One guy ended up on the median strip when I breaked with the sun behind me, he never saw the lights at all.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 06:35
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 06:35
muzzgit,
Having LED tail lights is good only for the person following you, as in your case. The lighs were biight and easy to see.
When I replaced the rear bumper on the Troopie I put LED tail lights on and they are
bright and very easy to see. When they are not in use they look like extra large reversing lights, no color can be seen in the lense. They draw very little power and should last forever as they don't get hot or have a element to break.
Wayne
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 19:03
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 19:03
I think you will find that the led replacement globes that fit in a normal bayonet socket are not ADR compatible, probably due to the fact that a proper led lamp assembly has a different lens/diffuser to spread the light better.
Apart from some BMW cars and the occasional truck light I've yet to see a rear LED light assembly that I feel matches the light output from a good incandescent lamp assembly in
bright sunny conditions especially if you aren't directly behind it.
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Follow Up By: Martyn (WA) - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:59
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 20:59
Ah ha, thanks for the info Peter, that explains a lot.
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Follow Up By: GraemeD - Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:52
Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 at 15:52
Might the "not ADR compatible" issue stem from the lack of an update of ADR and they only mention incandescant bulbs, or do they specifically exclude LEDs? The reason I ask is that a similar situation existed in the UK for LED bike lights, they were not classed as legal until a year or so ago, although people have been using them for 10 or more years (often to the tacit approval of local police).
Graeme
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Reply By: Rokkitt - Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 21:40
Wednesday, Oct 26, 2005 at 21:40
Hi,
I had to drop a line or two onto the end of this one as a LED convert, I have fairly recently switched to LED lights on my camper and find them far brighter than my car tail lights even in
bright sunlight.
Before investing in a set of LED lights I read a little on them and here is the info I found:
LED lights convert 90% of the power to light and 10% to heat as opposed to a globe, which turn 90% of the power into heat - they use very little power and last for a very long time.
The on time for a LED light is far better than that of the standard globe - an excellent feature for brake lights.
From what I understand the newer replacement LEDs emit light a full 360 degrees, and with the brighter LEDs available cause no problems with
bright sunlight (
well no more than convential globes)
Well for what its worth I am very happy with them and plan to switch my bulbs as neccesary.
Rokkitt
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 at 17:26
Thursday, Oct 27, 2005 at 17:26
what i was trying to say is that putting bayonet fitting LED globes into existing light housings/assemblies is not the best or legal way to fit LED lighting.
You should be fitting a whole assembly that is designed with the LED's as part of the package and also ADR compatible.
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