another tourist missing

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another tourist missing why do the pay a guide to lose them

SHADE from old-growth trees and river water are seen as the best hope for the survival of a German tourist missing in the searing heat of a West Australian national park.
The 63-year-old woman was last seen on a walking trail in the Geikie Gorge National Park, 20km from Fitzroy Crossing in WA's Kimberley region, just before 2pm (WST) yesterday.

Police said it was understood she was part of an organised tour to the gorge, but it was not clear how she was separated from the group.

"I'm not 100 per cent sure of the circumstances. She was involved in a hiking party and has become separated from the group," Constable Keith Fay, who is co-ordinating the search, said today.

The temperature at Fitzroy Crossing peaked at 45.1C yesterday and did not dip below 26C before climbing towards today's forecast top of 43C.

It is not known if the woman was carrying any water or food with her when she became lost.

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Authorities said old growth trees in the park may provide shelter from the harsh climate and the water of the Fitzroy River, which has carved Geikie Gorge to depths of 30m in some places, could be safely consumed.

"A good thing we do have in our favour, obviously, is that there is a river in the actual search area ... that is fresh water," Const Fay said.

"So if she is able to make it there she can drink that water and that (helps things) a little."

However, it was possible the woman may have inadvertently walked away from the water source, he said.

The search for the tourist was began at 4pm yesterday and it continued throughout the night, with additional personnel boosting the party to about 25 people this morning.

Police, Fire and Emergency Services Authority personnel, State Emergency Service volunteers and Conservation and Land Management employees spent today canvassing the park on foot and by boat, while a helicopter scoured the region from above.

Late last month, two English tourists sparked a rescue operation after ignoring a warning sign and spending an unprepared night in Karijini National Park in WA's Pilbara region.

In June, a tour operator and 10 clients had to be rescued from the same national park after spending a night in freezing conditions without food or shelter.

The same month, an 85-year-old American tourist plunged to his death from Mitchell Falls, a popular Kimberley tourist attraction.
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Reply By: Member - Blue (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 20:18

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 20:18
"Why do they pay a guide to lose them"

Not sure about that... Many years ago, a mate and I went to the Alice and did a 3 day organised tour of Ularoo and Kings Canyon. There were two tourists, one Japanese and the other Dutch who insisted on making life hell for the guides. They both constantly wandered off to look at stuff without notifying the guides. They were both sat down for a gentle talking to by the guides, citing the dangers of the area in combination with the extreme heat. Both continued to screw up the tour for the rest of us and would roll their eyes when the guides cracked up. The Japanese guy suddenly forgot he could speak english and started giving everyone a right old serve in his native tongue. Got to the point where the guides got some coppers out there and had them removed from the group. They didn't give a crap about the dangers or the rest of the group and really upset the apple cart.

I'm not saying this woman is like this but it was an eye opener for me... Had these two gone missing, I'm sure the guides would've copped a toasting over the issue. I think tourists need to be held accountable for their own actions... If you have been paying attention to your guides, how can you possibly inadvertantly get separated from them...??? We were told to inform the guides of your every move, from looking at a flower to taking a dump... They really stressed the fact that they didn't want to lose anyone...

Rant over...
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 20:46

Tuesday, Nov 01, 2005 at 20:46
Ahhh the risks we take
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Reply By: John L G - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2005 at 13:43

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2005 at 13:43
It's a people thing.

I think your average Joe is so used to being shielded from the dangers of life from a TV mentality, that when instruction is given by others who know better, this is selfishly ignored sometimes with fatal outcomes.

I have had two instances lately which simply makes me scratch my head and wonder as to the intelligence or lack of it from what I thought were otherwise clued up people with a brain.

First was a minor incidence in some virgin sand dune country with some novices in their dad's L/C. As the area was un-traveled with soft sand and lots of smallish but steep dunes with blind crests, I sent my son in first toward the beach area to see if it was doable with the option of winching him out if it proved a bit tricky. He got through ok , radio’d the conditions and tricky bits and so we sent the visitors in with strict instructions to keep on the radio and let us know if any problems.
You guessed, it silence ensued for five minutes and by the time I hoofed it in, I found them at the bottom of a dip on the new track, bogged to the windows with all wheels going flat out and determined to get to China. Apparently didn’t need our help and were going to get out by themselves.
Difficult winch out but they refused to communicate, call for help or abide by some simple rules.
Dumb!!!

Another incident involved water after bowing to pressure to teach a friend’s wife how to SCUBA dive. This girl was a highly intelligent, top of the heap business exec with good athletic abilities so after much pre-dive instruction on equipment, procedures etc and importantly maintaining contact with your buddy whilst underwater, in we went.
That was the last I saw of her.
Spent the next 45 minutes trying to find her and she wondered why I was just a tad cross when she finally surfaced some distance away, out of air and having had a wonderful time. Her husband was also frantic at this time because I had told him of the problem and he was circling the bay looking for bubbles or bodies.

Not fun I can assure you.

So what do you do about them????

I haven’t the slightest idea. Just make sure you are not ultimately responsible for them I suppose.

John G
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 02, 2005 at 14:50

Wednesday, Nov 02, 2005 at 14:50
When you give instructions to a novice diver, you are deemed to be an experienced instructor and therefore could be held responsible for their safety.
One of the reasons I gave up instructing, too many idiots that think they know better.
Cheers
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