Fuel Problems - 60 series cruiser

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 01:39
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On the 60 series cruisers, do you have to replace (or remove & clean) the filter that is attached to the chassis rail on the drivers side. The one you check to drain water.

Reason for asking is - Have recently (8,000k) had injectors replaced and pump rebuilt - is that at times the motor misses as if there was air in an injector.

The last time it happened the car actually seemed to run out of fuel (had over 100ltrs) but it was as if I had run out of fuel as I had to use the primer to be able to restart the car.

Any ideas, Thanks in advance.
Chappie

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Reply By: G-wizz - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:25

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 02:25
Don't have a fuel filter attached to the chassis rail on my HJ61 and so far I haven't had to replace the one on the drivers side of the engine block.
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Follow Up By: keny - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 13:11

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 13:11
hi is this a 2h motor if so the fuel bleed pipe back from injectors runs behind pump to suction side of lift it has a clip around it and it the clip wears a hole allowing ingress of air making the engine stop intermittently have done at least ten very hard to find first time out have done at least ten or twelve with same problem hope this helps regards kenny ( have a good life)

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 05:06

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 05:06
Its getting air in somwhere. I had a simular problem with a lister generator except t had a glass bowl on the fuel filter and ou could see the air mouinting until it started to run rough and cut out. I super tightened all the unions (couldnt get spare o rings etc) and that solved it
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 07:25

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 07:25
The sedimenter (the black tin on the chassis rail) that has a couple of wires coming out of it is the water trap which brings the fuel filter light up on the dash when the water gets in it.
They do rust out due to not being cleaned out regularly.
Is there any dampness or smelll of diesel around it?
There is also two ten mm headed bolts on it one at the bottom (the drain) and one up on the top off to one side (breather). Both of these should have a fibre washer on themto stop air leaks.
I'd reckon it has a pinhole in it and is sucking air or there is an air leak somewhere in the fuel system.
I've repaired a few by soldering the holes up but you can usually pick up a decent one at the wreckers.
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Reply By: Legend_171 - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 09:35

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 09:35
Thanks for your responses, I now know where to start looking. I was suspecting an air leak somewhere. I have no idea as to where it may be as there is no sign of any leak, dampness or dust being attracted to anything/anywhere.

My other thought is that the fuel line is nearly blocked somewhere. I have replaced the fuel filter that is on the side of the motor and has no effect.

But, when I used to drain the water trap fuel ran out freely (from memory) and recently the flow seems to be restricted. I may have to pull my fuel lines out and check they are clean.

Thanks
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Follow Up By: Member - Pesty (SA) - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 11:54

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 11:54
Jump a hose across and bypass the water trap and see if that helps, mine was disconected when i bought it, rusted out with many holes.
I have never had any problems in 200,000 as i run water dispersant /injector cleaner through regularly and change fuel filter often.
I intend to fit glass based filter/watertrap unit at some stage which will negate need for such a unit.

Cheers Pesty
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Follow Up By: keny - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 13:34

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 13:34
im sure this pipe is your problem if the filters were blocked you would be very short of power
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Follow Up By: keny - Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 15:32

Saturday, Nov 05, 2005 at 15:32
i did another one for a mate today as usual there was no evidence of moisture at the leak site
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Reply By: Legend_171 - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 16:34

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 16:34
Thanks to all, I will be checking the sedimenter and the fuel return for problems.

The problem is intermittent - or so it seems. It may only be that is is running OK untill it collects enough air to cause the problem.

Thanks for your help. See you on the track - somewhere - sometime
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Follow Up By: Legend_171 - Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 16:42

Sunday, Nov 06, 2005 at 16:42
Sorry, It is a 2H motor
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