Boost Gauge Nissan 3litre GU IV????
Submitted: Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 07:50
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Voxson (Adelaide)
Is there a certain spot where the boost gauge vacuum line can be plumbed into....
I have had a look around and nothing seems to jump out and hit me....
Reply By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:17
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:17
Are you talking 'Boost Gauge' or 'Vacuum Gauge'
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:21
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 09:21
Boost Gauge.....
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Reply By: Chaz - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:32
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:32
Voxson,
I’ve searched high and low and can’t find a plug on the manifold anywhere. It’s a simple operation on the 3.0l Navara because they don’t have an intercooler, the boost controller is remotely fitted and it’s simply a case of tapping into the tubing with a T-piece.
The patrols intercooler mounted boost sensor doesn’t allow this.
Ideally the boost gauge should be plumbed into the manifold, because unlike conventional diesels, the patrol does have a throttle body and under certain conditions the boost will vary between the turbo/intercooler and manifold.
I’m not too keen to pull my manifold off to drill and tap it, so I’m going to drill and braze a fitting into the steel bend that the intercooler hoses clamp onto at the front. This will tell me what boost is in the intercooler, which although not ideal, still gives me some idea of what’s going on. The only other thing with doing it this way is that it will show higher boost levels when the accelerator is suddenly released which won’t be true and accurate to what is in the manifold.
Chaz
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Follow Up By: hl - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:40
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:40
Why would it show higher boost levels when the pedal is released?
There is no throttle on a diesel, so it should go down if anything as less fuel is burned.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Voxson (Adelaide) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:42
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:42
I couldnt find a spot either but i was hoping it was because i was not looking hard enough....
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:50
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:50
hl,
As I said "convential diesels don't, but the Nissan 3.0l does have a throttle body". It's on the rear drivers side and goes across the top of the tappet cover, between the intercooler and the inlet manifold, just above the EGR valve.
When you suddenly release the pedal, the turbo is spinning up and the pressure has nowhere to go, so pressure rises.
Chaz
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Follow Up By: hl - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:26
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:26
Chaz,
That valve actually only closes when the engine is shut down, to stop it from shaking about. When the engine is running, it is always open.
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 17:18
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 17:18
I reckon we need to hear from ACDC.....in his recent post number 27848 he talked about how a customer's boost was measured and found to be 30psi or 25psi or whatever////.....so he must know of a way to easily get a measuring devise onto the turbo system.
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 19:52
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 19:52
hl,
I stand corrected!
My book mentions a throttle body and an intake air control valve, but it seems that they are one and the same. My apologies for misleading the public.
Then if this is the case, it seems that it doesn’t matter where the boost gauge is plumbed into.
Cheers
Chaz
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Reply By: Member - Oskar (Bris) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 15:58
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 15:58
Is there a problem putting a "TEE" in the line from the turbo to the wastegate actuator. It's not on the manifold side but does that really matter? It would measure boost at the turbo rather than at the manifold.
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Follow Up By: hl - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:32
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:32
Hi,
As pointed out earlier in the post, the turbo has no wastegate as such. The variable nozzle, while actuated by a vacuum or air pressure (not sure), is nevertheless controlled by the computer.
There is already a pressure sensor mounted to the intercooler, and, again, it feeds back to the ECU.
This engine full off little sensors and valves, all controlled by the ECU. It will be interesting to see what happens to all this stuff when it gets a bit older.
When it works, it's great though. I get less than 11/100 driving around town!
Cheers
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