WARNING -Singapore Ants Eat Canvas +more!!

Submitted: Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:28
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Last year we embarked on a trip around OZ and did the thing you do when planning on a long camping expedition - invest in a good tent. We decided on a Southern Cross 10x10 - a great looking canvas tent by all accounts - We also decided to purchase the optional awning - bringing the total cost to nearly $1400 - not too bad considering it was to be out house for then next year or so.

We might as well have flushed my money down the toilet - as all it took was one night at the Fitzroy Crossing caravan park to destroy the entire tent. We awoke in the morning to find lots of little small brown ants (similar in size to household black ants - but light brown in colour) and to our absolute horror - they had eaten no less than 30 holes in our $1400 investment! We later found out that these ants (called Singapore Ants) are a non native ant that also eat through some metals - and love to eat the wiring looms in cars.

Next time I will invest in a $100 tent and buy a new one when it wears out - rather than forking out $1400 only to have it eaten out from under me. I can hear you all saying - get the canvas tent repaired - well I would however Southern Cross Canvas's only solution for repair - replace the panels with the holes in it - a great idea - except that every panel had a hole in it!!

I have since plugged the holes with silicone - the tent is waterproof - but looks shocking. If I had bought a $100 tent - I could have changed it over 5 times over the year and still have a waterproof tent that looks great - another 6 changes of tent over the next 12 years would still see me in front.

My point here is that expensive tents can be destroyed just as quickly and easily as cheapy's. Oh - and I hate Singapore Ants!! - Has anyone else had experiences with them?

- Myfourby
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:43

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:43
I have not heard of Singapore ants , but I was a bit worried about the canvas on my Trak Shak being eaten by termites ants when I camped for a week at the Daly River ( NT ) last April .

Previously we had camped there during a Barra Classic and had left big cardboard cartons of lures next to the tent for six days . When we went to leave , we lifted the cartons and they had no bottoms in them at all .

I thought the same might happen to my canvas , but I had no problems . I have heard stories of those northern termites eating into car tyres ( maybe an urban myth )

I have the Southern Cross centre pole tent with the extension out the rear and I am very proud of it's quality and ruggedness . I would be totally pi55ed off if that happened to me . OUCH !

My commiserations ,

Willie .
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Follow Up By: Spango - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 12:25

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 12:25
Willie termites eating car tyres isn't an urban myth, I remember as a young fella living in Derby WA in the 1960's and my Dad would always park his car on sheets of galvanised iron.

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Spango
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Reply By: chump_boy - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:46

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:46
I spose leading on from that, does anyone have any way of keeping ants away from tents and things?

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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:56

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:56
Ant dust or crawley cruncher seems to work. We had a similar experience in our group last trip (might even have been at FC). We've been bitten (excuse the pun) before and always use dust. Regular routine - pull up - mark spot - dust ground - erect tent.

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Follow Up By: myfourby - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:58

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 10:58
I posed this question to Southern Cross also - their answer - call the government and get them to irradicate them from the coutnry!! - Some help that was!

I also asked Southern Cross to perhaps treat the canvas with something to try and prevent such problems in the future (however I felt as though my suggestions were falling of deaf ears...)

-myfourby
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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:00

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:00
Beatit - does that stuff kill the ants, or just dissuade them?

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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:04

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:04
Both I reckon - it certainly makes them scarce. We've camped righ neear a nest - powder the nest as well as our patch. Not seen an ant again. Works for me. Some may be concerned about the long term impacts of this stuff - so am I but I still use it. Really good to put it around the food box - we got sick of sharing our food with them and now don't have too.

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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:13

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:13
I don't know if I would be comfortable doing that to native ants, but those Singapore ones.......lol.

Are you allowed to kill ants like that, or are they protected somehow?

Just curious...
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:15

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:15
Don't know, but they were messing with my food and were asking for it. So as they say, it was a just war.

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Follow Up By: chump_boy - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:23

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:23
Fair point.

It starts with the food, and would quickly degenerate to alcohol supplies.

Best to nip it in the bud before it gets to that stage....

I always remember sitting at this lovely campspot up in northern NSW somewhere. Under a lovely tree, soft grass, good book, sound of surf, etc..... This bloody great funnelweb jumps out of the tree about a foot from my leg, and is up on his hind legs ready to strike. Needless to say, he started that little battle, but I won with a can of deodorant, and a match.......

I agree - if they come after me, I am the dominant species fora reason....

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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:27

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:27
One last point, scientists say that in the event of a nuclear war that ants will be one of the survivors, so I reckon they could outlast human kind. BUT not if they keep messing with my food.

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Follow Up By: Alloy c/t - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 18:01

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 18:01
Cheapest and best is talcum powder ,just the cheap stuff ,ants hate it and does no harm to the environment ,also the ducks guts when near/on sand ,wet/dry just falls off with a sprinkle so no sand in tent/camper.
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Follow Up By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:26

Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:26
Yep talcum powder keep them away I even sprinkle some on where the cloths line attaches to a tree and for some reason thy don't cross the stuff.
As said above the cheap brands do the same as the more expensive ones.

All the best
Eric
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Reply By: Member - Melissa - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:49

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:49
Commiserations! Tried, proven and cheap way of detering ants is using dusting talcom powder on the ground and around your camp before setting up your tent. Also spread it aroung tyres on campertrailer and vehicle to stop the little critters climbing up them and getting into your pride and joy. Have a look around any caravan park up north and you'll see this solution is widely used among the "sunseeker" set.

:o) Melissa
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Reply By: Member -Dodger - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:09

Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 16:09
We carry a couple of cans of surface spray and use it liberally when setting up camp anywhere near ants.
When fishing I usually get the carcus of a freshly cleaned fish ant stake it to the ground with a tent peg between the ant nest and my camp and this keeps the little buggers busy. When the fish is eaten replace, simple as.
I used to have a handle on life, but it broke.

Cheers Dodg.

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Reply By: Eric from Cape York Connections - Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:33

Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:33
I had a rabbit chew some holes in a swag and yes they were rabbits because I saw them do it from a distance on the way back from a walk anyway.
I just took it to canvas place and they sewed it up.

All the best
Eric
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Reply By: obone - Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 11:32

Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 11:32
We arrived at the camping ground in Broome some years ago and noticed all the neat white lines surrounding the cars, tents and caravans, didn't bother to find out why and went ahead and set-up our tent. Next morning we woke to find we had 23 new "air vents" in the roof and the walls. Talcum powder , we later found out, is essential (the ants wont walk over it). We believe that in our situation the ants were actually attracted by previously deposited tree sap, which they subsequently ate (along with the canvass it was attached to). The little buggers also reduced a facial tissue which was lying on the floor of the tent to a pile of dust !
To repair my tent I got some offcuts the same colour as the tent, cut them into patches about the size of a 10 cent piece and glued them back to back over the holes.
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Obone
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Reply By: ev700 - Wednesday, Nov 09, 2005 at 14:49

Wednesday, Nov 09, 2005 at 14:49
It is a bit of a reminder for people not to transport pot plants around, or bring an interesting plant home for the garden.

I believe that is a very common means for the various exotic ants to spread throughout Australia.
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