2000 Nissan Patrol Stopped
Submitted: Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:43
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gcoops
My wife was driving our 2000 Nissan Patrol (130,000K ZD30 engine) last week when it just stopped. There was apparently no abnormal noise imediately prior to the failure, the engine just cut out. The vehicle has been with a local nissan dealer for the past week and they still have not determinede the problem. They can trell me that a pressure test has indicated that one cylinder is down 100psi. The vehicle will crank but not fire. They are currently sending the fuel pump away for testing.
Have any
forum readers experienced similar problems and if so what was the eventual solution?
Regards
gcoops
Reply By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:50
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:50
I hate to say it, but !
The pressure test indicating that one cylinder is down 100psi sounds like you could have the dreaded piston failure. The engine may need to be replaced or rebuilt.
Regards,
Mark
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Follow Up By: angler - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:37
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:37
The thing still has there other pistons. So one being down a bit would not stop it from firing up. If the piston has sh*t itself there would be no pressure reading at all. I'm guessing something to do with the pump if the computer shows no fault. Even without a turbo the engine should still fire up. Most early 4.2's fire up with no turbo.
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Follow Up By: Member - Stillthinkinaboutit - Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:18
Tuesday, Nov 08, 2005 at 07:18
True, it still has three other pistons. The pump is most likely the reason it is not starting, but I would be very concerned about one pot being down by 100psi ( 680kpa ). This could be a cracked piston, badly scored
bore, burnt valve. With the knowledge we now have regarding the failures of these motors, I suspect this one is on its way out, the piston is in the early stages of failure.
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Reply By: Member - Craig D (SA) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:58
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 11:58
Mine did the same about four years ago. Turned out to be the fuel pump. Hasn't missed a beat since changing it out (warranty).
Good luck and hope you are on the road again soon.
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Reply By: OLDMAGPIE - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 12:08
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 12:08
one week & they still dont know what it is? must be a nissan thing
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:05
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:05
same thing happened to me, took the thing in and told them the turbo was shot, took two weeks for them to come back and agree. In that time they changed out the fuel pump, drained the whole
tank and refilled it, replaced the fuel filter and then the turbo finally
muust be a Nissan thing
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:09
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:09
doesnt happen to the 4.2 though bonz.. :P
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:37
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:37
'It must be a Nissan thing'
NO! I never, didn't you mean to say
'It must be a Nissan Missan thing'
Sorry! couldn't help myself
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:59
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 13:59
If only I knew now what I didnt know then Bruce old mate, I coulda bought a 4.2 at the right price too
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 14:41
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 14:41
Now that I've got the new Denco Turbo on my good ol' 4.2 I'm having trouble keeping the front
wheels on the ground every time i pop the clutch!!! hehehehehe
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Follow Up By: Member - Pezza (QLD) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 21:43
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 21:43
Well.....c'mon Roachie, don't keep us in suspense! Give us some new hp, trq, or % improvement figures, or are you working on a whole new thread for that ?
Avagoodn
Pezza
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:16
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:16
G'day Pezza,
Unfortunately,
Berri Diesel Service doesn't yet have a dyno (but they're getting one in the near future); so I wasn't able to get any before and after concrete data.
However, it feels stronger by about 20%. It spools-up quicker and around town it seems to just sort of "breathe" easier.
I'm looking forward to seeing what effect it has on my fuel economy. But if I do have a noticeable improvement, I won't be able to say whether it is mainly attributable to the new snail or the new AMSOIL products I chucked into the diffs, tfr case and g'box last saturday. Also changed to AMSOIL's coolant stuff too.
I haven't had the camper trailer on the back yet....going
camping this coming weekend (if the weather ever clears up!!!), so we'll see how it feels with a small load hangin' off the towbar too.
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:38
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:38
>>> I won't be able to say whether it is mainly attributable to the new snail or the new AMSOIL products I chucked into the diffs, tfr case and g'box last saturday. Also changed to AMSOIL's coolant stuff too.
I hope your not one of these people who expect any more power by changing diff oil and gearbox oil are you? Cause thats what it sounds like! ya gotta be kiddin!
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:47
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:47
Trucky......
No mate, I'm not one who hopes to get more power out of different oil etc, but I am hoping for better fuel economy.......the oils I've put in are noticeably "thinner" and the theory is they 'may' cause less rolling-resistence of the components.
I'm still running the 15w40 AMSOIL in the motor...now it's done 15,000klm.....and I have another lot ready to go in when I'm satisfied the old stuff has reached it's use-by date. BUT the new stuff I bought is 5w30.
At this stage the 15w40 is still going strong.....I am due to take another sample and send it off to Castrol for analysis.
Cheers
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:53
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:53
ok.. I'll stand by the LMAO though ;)
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Reply By: Redback - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:18
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 22:18
Sell it and buy a Land Rover.
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Follow Up By: flashnick - Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 23:05
Monday, Nov 07, 2005 at 23:05
cough cough gasp
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