staked tyre ...need advice...experts welcome offer their tupence
Submitted: Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 13:50
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Nudenut
what does one do?
the tyre is unrepairable....and has done about 25k (toyota 100 series auto (the only way to go))
Questions......
a) can i just fit 1 (one) new or do need I to fit 2 (two)
b) is it important to have tyres of equal dia or not?
Reply By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 13:56
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 13:56
G'day Nudie,
I would just fit one new tyre. Also are you sure it's irripairable? Just had a major repair done on one of
mine for a cost of $30 (looks OK). BTW its not the only way to go - you could stop slumming it and get a Nissan.
Kind regards
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Follow Up By: MATT.D(WA) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:05
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:05
If you get it repaired I would be careful to only use it on the rear
wheels only, so if the repair fails you won't have that chance of a blowout on the front.
cheers
Matt.
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Follow Up By: Member - Beatit (QLD) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:09
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:09
G'day Matt,
It is on the camper trailer. Was relatively new when it copped a puncture only slightly too big to patch.
Kind regards
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:10
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:10
Beatit...tyre guy says its unrepairable...he did fix the last one but this hole looks bigger and is something like a tear also...
And no thanks dont need a nissan...landcruisers are bad enough! not to mention the rest of the sheit..............hahahaha
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 19:18
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 19:18
How'd ya stake it on a highway??
;-)
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:41
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:41
sun hardend salt bush growing up thru the bitumen smart ass
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Follow Up By: Member - Brian (Gold Coast) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:50
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:50
you'd think Main Roads would mow it wouldn't you?????
;-))
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 07:44
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 07:44
nah
but at least thought the land-owner would have run the grader around before we drove over them, to smooth them out a bit and remove the hard salt bush....not to mention the bushes growing out over the "highway" that scratched the bloody car!!
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Reply By: Rod W - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:37
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:37
Here in WA there are
places that repair em. I have had several sidewall stakes that have left pretty severe holes. I have taken them to the local tyre place (Diffen's) who sends them off for major repairs. They have NOT failed. So I would say get it repaired.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:27
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:27
yep the last one i got repaired stayed on car till it died with rest..some 60k...but this suposedly can not be repaired so my tyre guy says
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Reply By: Des Lexic - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:48
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 14:48
Nudie, some sidewall stakes can be repaired but not all. A lot depends on the damage done to the steel belts.
Yes you can fit 1 tyre but it needs to match the other tyres that your running.
I don't think it is a good idea to have tyres of differeing rolling diameters as I would recon it would causing damage to the diff bearings etc.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:05
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:05
i was going to fit same make model etc etc...just didnt know if i could do this or had to bget two of exactly same dia.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:12
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:12
Nudie,
Wouldn't think it'd be any different than fitting an unused spare to a vehicle when the 1st 4 tyres had worn down considerably. As long as they are the same size tyre (eg: 265/75R16 etc), I can't see how the couple of mm difference would be of any consequence unless you were driving in a DEAD STRAIGHT line for many, many thousands of kilometers (which may cause a very slight amount of "wind-up").
Other than that, the normal daily driving we do, where we make various turns (both left and right) would see to it that there are no dire consequences....
Cheers mate
Roachie
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:26
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:26
thanks roachie ..what your saying appears to be the concensus of replies so far...i didnt know so thought i'd ask first...when in doubt, ask for help is my motto...if its wrong i can toss it all back onto you lot....hahaha
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 23:37
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 23:37
Hey Des,
Rolling diameter and I emphasize rolling, can be known to cause problems, especially on the front, even just the difference between an inflated tyre and a flat one :-) You've had experience here haven't you?
As Roachie says you shouldn't have any probs Nudie, if you slap it on the back so both your steer tyres are exactly the same size is the best scenerio. On the back unlocked you can even run a 15" on one side and 16" on the other if you have an open centre diff and of course if you are in soft stuff there would be enough slip. I had to run 600k's with a 1.5inch smaller tyre on one side at the back of my old Nissan I owned years ago, using one of a mates camper spares without any hassles. Roachie will probably say it was purely because it was Neeeeesan. LOL
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Reply By: Marilyn Monroe - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 16:32
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 16:32
Nudie just get one, or if you're like me, stake 2 and then get 2. Youo can have my ST-C mate, only 3500km's good as new...except for the whole in the side
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:04
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:04
maybe we can swap....
mine too has a hole...and run in ..not like yours!
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Reply By: Wombat - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:14
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:14
Surely the difference in diameter between a new tyre and one with only 25k on it would not be sufficient to create an imbalance great enough to affect bearings or tolerances, would it? When I staked
mine Nudie I paired the new tyre up with the unused spare and simply used the odd tyre as the spare.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:21
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:21
will the real marliyn ...nope cant say it...this is a family show...or have you two got something going we dont know about???
Thats what I duidnt know...did it matter if one tyre smaller by a few millmeters or not for long term use? appears not from the replies...spare is not same so its only used for emergency short term use use....
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:34
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:34
The only situation I could imagine where stresses may build up is if you were driving perfectly straight on a perfectly flat road for many, many kilometers and as far as I know that sort of situation doesn't exist.
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:36
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:36
thanks gorgeous xxx
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Follow Up By: Wombat - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:58
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 17:58
I was just starting to get over my hangover and now you've made me feel queasy again.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 20:06
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 20:06
Tyre
places tell me that most tyres that have been staked or have sidewall damage are unrepairable. Some people just leave the odd plug in there, but you're not allowed to do that ;-(((
I know another guy who replaced a set of 6 BFGs in
Alice Springs last year - had 37 plugs in sidewall stakes between the lot :-))
But for a law-abiding citizen such as yourself, I guess you have a few choices:
#1 Replace the tyre with a new one (say $250), and repair the old casing if you want to carry it as a spare casing.
#2 Replace the tyre with a second-hand - from Used Tyre Part at Wingfield, or try Beaurepaires at Gouger Street (say $50-200)
#3 Decide that they are all cr@p and get some decent tyres that look the goods and are hard to stake like MTRs (cost only $1300 for 5 :-)))
The difference in diameter between new and half worn won't matter.
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:47
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 21:47
me law abiding ....when did you find out the truth
the size difference bit was what i wanted to know...new has been fitted to rim...will get it fitted toomorrow...getting a new bf all terrain to match the other three....quiet and good wearing.....i know it aint the best but it will do me so no need to tell me what is the best as I dont want to know!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 22:54
Monday, Nov 14, 2005 at 22:54
Nudie,
I've got a set of BFG ATKO as my second set. They have that really neat ridge around the edge of the tread that is a magnet for the sharp sticks. But they are a very good tyre - some of
mine have 70,000k with 6mm left on the tread - previous owner only drove it on Sundays in the city of churches :-))
Cheers
phil
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Follow Up By: Nudenut - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 07:48
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 07:48
Funny you say that
apart from the large hole it was noted that one of the front was also going down ...so back to tyre bloke ....wood spike of course, exactly where you say
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:26
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:26
Got a photo of someone else's BFG with 3 stake holes and plugs - all on that ridge.
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