Extra fuel or water
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:10
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Austravel
Hi,
I'm heading to the Kimblery and Pilbra region for 6mths next year and hoping for some advice. Have a patrol cab chassis towing a pioneer camper. Camper will have 60 litres of
water under floor, 4x4 has 80 litres of
water under tray and approx 30+ litres in the tray so all up approx 170-180 litres.
Fuel volume is 170 litres in two standard patrol tanks.
We will have plenty of time to stay in good locations and hope to travel to some of the more remote
places if possible.
So the question is what do I put in the draw bar jerry can rack (takes 3 x 20 litre drums) extra fuel or
water??????????????
Don't know the area so hope people from over there can give me some advice.
Reply By: Member - John - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:19
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:19
with that much
water, you don't need any more of that, would not take as much myself, maybe take 1 x 20 of extra fuel, but that would be all, plenty of fuel and
water available. Hope this helps?
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Reply By: myfourby - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:19
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 09:19
How many people will be using your
water?
-myfourby
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:44
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 12:44
True, didn't give enough detail. Only 2 adults, but hope to stay in the one place for as long as we want if worth it, my guess would be up to a week. I have the space so thought why not use it. Initially I thought fuel as I could then buy when cheaper.
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Follow Up By: myfourby - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 13:14
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 13:14
You already have a lot of both of these liquids for 2 people - really depends on how long you intend on staying in one place. To be honest I wouldn't really want to weigh down your rig much more than it already is with liquid.
Be careful not to overload - as this can quickly become the biggest problem you have (with suspension/mechanical failure being the main issues).
I'd consider leaving the jerry holders empty. - if you find you want them further down the track - most servos will sell them. Don't just take them to save on fuel prices - you might lose out when it comes time to recover your vehicle due to
suspension or other mechanical failure because of overloading.
Your choice, however - we managed to get around OZ in a 2.8 hilux with 140 litres of diesel and 120 litres of
water going upto 2 weeks before we needed to refill
water (including a shower or two!) and 1200kms before diesel looked low. We did not do the canning or any other long distance trip though - reconsider if you plan an extended trip such as this.
-myfourby
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:35
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:35
100 litres used to easily do 2 adults on a previos job for a week but if you take showers every day that could make a difference. Also most of the time it was winter
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Reply By: flappa - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:44
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:44
You are potentially adding 20 or more kilo's of weight and its possible side effects to save . . . what . . . $2 - $3 on fuel.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:47
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:47
I get your drift but it's more like 60 kg and based on my mates trip around Oz this year the range of prices in some areas was around 70-80 cents per litre dearer within a days drive.
I get the argument though hence my reason for asking.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:52
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:52
Sorry, it was someone else that said , chuck on 1 X 20l jerry , I thought it was you.
Yep , 3x20 would be 60odd kg , and yes , 60l could save a few dollars , but , that 60l puts a penalty on the vehicle and trailer.
Personally , I would want the weight as low as possible , rather then trying to save a few bucks. I WOULD though , chuck the empty Jerries on, in case.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:55
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 15:55
That's what I've been wondering. Not to necessarily have them full all the time only when needed.
But wasn't sure in those areas whether
water or fuel would be more of an issue. Probably will just go for fuel jerry cans and fill only when I need them or it could save serious $$.
Thanks
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 16:19
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 16:19
IMO , you should always carry more
water then you are likely to need.
No
water ,will kill you , not having spare fuel wont.
You never know when something is likely to happen busted
tank , or , you come across someone in distress.
Of course fuel IS important , but , unless the extra is ACTUALLY needed , I personally , wouldn't just carry it , "because it was cheap".
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Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 22:31
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 22:31
In all my years of tyravelling I have only carried 40 litres of
water, filling up the containers at every available opportunity.
Next year however is going to be a another 3 month trek through the North West staying in camps for longer periods and we will be carrying 100lts
water and around 300lts diesel. Towing a bush trailer not CT
We seem to use on average, 10lts
water per day, including wash/shower for 2 people and a dog.
Even in remote
places in the North West there is surface
water that can be collected and used.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:25
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:25
Yep probably just overkill. Have the space so have the need to fill it!! May just take some empty drums and if needed will fill them then.
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Reply By: The Rambler( W.A.) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 22:49
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 22:49
I agree with Willem and others as I have teravelled all over the top end for many years and never carried more than 60 l. of
water.Remember that in the top end there is
water every where that you are likely to be
camping, so showers are from the river and drinking is all you need to worry about---and the beer usually takes preference.As said keep your weight down to a minimum as that is what can cause you hassles with
suspension problems and tyre wear.Just my 2 cents worth but I can say that I have been through the learning curve.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:27
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 10:27
Thanks. Will probably do as you suggest. My drama is if the space is there I feel the urge to put something else in. I guess in my travels over the past 20 years I've never taken as much but now with a camper and ute there's sooooooo much space. Also hope to be doing more trips that include staying in the one place longer.
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Reply By: MrMagoo - Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:11
Sunday, Nov 27, 2005 at 01:11
Sounds like your set up for some long stays a long way from facilities. Hmm - how about fixing a crate to the drawbar and filling it with beer cans. Full ones.
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Follow Up By: Austravel - Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:53
Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at 09:53
Now that's more along the lines I was thinking. :-) Plenty of space in the canopy for that.
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