FROG SIGHTING WANTED. Marla Bore, SA
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 14:38
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GregMat
Im posting this on behalf of the SA Frog Group,
We are interested in seeing if anyone has seen or heard a specific kind of frog in the
Marla area.
It's a burrowing frog of the Genus Notaden and quite distinctive looking.
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Info about this frog here
Its call is very distinctive, like a whooping or owl like sound. It will often be heard calling after rain, usually at night.
We have reports of it being in the area a quite a few years ago, but it hasnt been heard since. We would be delighted if anyone could let us know if they hear it, or even better record its call on a tape. This is a fair way out of its normal geographic range, so confirming it's presence there would be very helpful to us.
If you see this frog and if you are NOT within a National
Park, please collect it, store it in a ventilated container in a cool dark place, with a couple of cm of
water in the container.
Contact Greg Mathews from FrogSA ( FROG SA website)
on ph 08 8363 6916 if you see or hear this frog.
Thanks for your time,
Greg Mathews
FrogSA
Reply By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 14:57
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 14:57
Sorry this is not relevant but I couldnt stop lauphing when I looked at the Site Keyword Matches for your post - Topic Search: Cooking
Does anyone have any good
recipes?
Cheers
Greg
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:32
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:32
have heard a frog call that matches that at
Peak charles.
Out of intrest i have had a Western Bell frog for over 3 years that i caught in kalgoorlie -
well out of its habitat
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 18:37
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 18:37
According to the WA Museum Notaden nichollsi (Desert Spadefoot)doesnt hang out that far south:
Distribution:
Kimberley and Arid zones. From
Derby east
to vicinity of Billiluna and south to Roebourne, Mt Edgar,
Jiggalong and
Alexandra Spring. Also at Yalobia near
Carvarvon. Also extends into the Northern Territory.
But you never know, could be i suppose. The following species have been recorded in the general
Peak Charles area by the WA Museum..
Crinia pseudinsignifera
Limnodynastes dorsalis
Myobatrachus gouldii
Neobatrachus albipes
Pseudophryne occidentalis
None appear to have a "whooping call" but sometimes difficult to describe.
needeep
Greg
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 19:08
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 19:08
It was just the call sounded like the one described. no dought there are others with possibly simular descriptions of the call. On the way in i came accross a frog i was unable to identify with my frogs of WA book I thought it was a neobatrachus but didnt look quite like anything in the book I will have another look at the alpibes. certainly didnt sem to be the more common kunapalari which is common In Kalgoorlie and the eyre Penninsula.
Most commmon frog i come accros out bush is the western Toadlet which from memory is Pseudophryne occidentalis a small ugly frog that is found under
granite sheets near rockholes (and other spots)
there was an ultra noisy crinia species that calls the leinster swimming pool home with no apparent ill effects
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:24
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 03:24
ok I have just heard the call. From memory the one i heard was not dissimular but slower and deeper not unlike the noise those apes at the zoo make when blowing there cheeks up before screeming round the cage
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:31
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 09:31
Davoe which frog book do you have - the WA Museum one? - it has a brief description of calls - but as I said it is sometimes difficult to tell some apart as they can be very similar. I have a tape of frog calls but it only covers those species that occur around
Perth.
Some are here
Frogwatch
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Greg
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 16:16
Wednesday, Nov 16, 2005 at 16:16
It is called frogs of western australia it seems pretty comprehensive and compliments my skinks of Wa, geckos and pygopods, and dragons and Moniters of WA
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Reply By: porl - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:34
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:34
Fascinating, if found outside a national
park why should it be returned to one.
I note Rheobatrachus Silus went extinct in a national
park. I searched in vain for one at BS100 on the forestry map, its place of last sighting, alas i never found one.
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:53
Tuesday, Nov 15, 2005 at 17:53
Dont think they were suggesting any found would be taken to a National
Park - they would like you to collect it for them if its not in a National
Park (so you dont get busted by the wildlife police), then take it to them so they can confirm its identity I suggest. Animals captured in the wild for subsequent release should in most circumstances be returned to the immediate vicinity of their capture.
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Reply By: GregMat - Thursday, Nov 17, 2005 at 00:17
Thursday, Nov 17, 2005 at 00:17
Quite right,
I wasnt suggesting that they should be returned to a National
Park, Its just that it's forbidden to collect any animal or vegetable from inside a national
Park.
If you do find one, grab a photograph. Preferably showing the underneath of its feet if possible.
We are aware that there have been none collected and described there. There are anecdotal reports of them being heard, no concrete evidence and we'd be grateful for any observations.
There may be some confusion. The
Marla Bore I was speaking of is in SA along the Stuart Hightway, not in WA. I believe that there are two of them.
Its 1050 km. north of
Adelaide and 480km. south of
Alice Springs.
Probably the most commonly confused frogs in that region would be Neobatrachus centralis and Cyclorana platycephala (they look vaguely similar)
Cyclorana platycephala has a deeper call, ( click here to hear it) this is what Davoe may have described.
Here is some info on the frogs frogs of SA
In regards to the keywords, "cooking" I noticed that too!
We dont recommend them for bush tucker as their skin secretions may be as sticky as superglue.
This frogs cousin Notaden bennetti has secretions so sticky theyre being researched for medical suturing.
In which case Id recommend skinning it first and boiling it throroughly if you were in the position of being forced to eat one ;)
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