UHF Radio

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 18:04
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Hello All
I am looking for some help with the reception of my GME TX4400 UHF Radio fitted to my Series 80 Landcruiser. I am experiencing static on the radio, mostly when just switched on and listening, usually on Ch 40. Basically is this normal (considering it is UHF), should I consider fitting a better ariel, for example the heavy duty fiberglass ones, or is there anything that I can fit to control the static, other than turning the squelch knob all the way on? Thanks in advance.
Brian
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Reply By: Snowy 3.0iTD - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 18:48

Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 18:48
Brian

Does your radio have a 'squelch' knob or button? This can be adjusted to eliminate the static, however by increasing the squelch you do decrease the reception range slightly, (ie the signals that are on the edge or your reception range you will no longer hear).

As for improving the reception, forget about bigger aerials they do help but the two main things you need to look at are: (1) Does your aerial have an electrical base, on a lot of aerial set-ups this will be a long narrow metal cylinder approx 10-20mm in diameter and about 30cm long with the aerial sitting on top of this. Not having one of these will drastically reduce your reception range. Without seeing your set-up the easiest way to check would be to ask at a proper radio communications mob. (2) Aerial location; although putting the aerial on the bull bar is the preferred method and may look better in some peoples opinion, roof mounted is definitely the way to go, take a look at any of the prime-movers driving around, they will all have their aerials up as high as practiably possible. I found that by shifting my aerial from the roof to the bullbar cut my reception range by atleast half, I have since moved it back.

I have a gutter mount bracket that allows me to fold the aerial down when not in use and for undercover carparks, it has one of the electrical bases I descibed above with just a little 60cm metal whip aerial, and on flat open country regular get a range of 15-20km
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Reply By: hoyks - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 19:10

Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 19:10
Is your cruiser a petrol or diesel?

The ignition coil can cause interference with a radio, more often if the antenna cable runs near the coil. It's ignition interference if it sounds like a popping sound and increases/decreases with engine revs.

Fridges can cause it too. If the interference comes on when the fridge cycles then you may need to earth the fridge to the body. Engals have a terminal for this, not sure about other brands.

Trace the antenna cable and reroute it so that it doesn’t run parallel to existing wiring looms for any distance and check the connections at either end.

Somewhere to start.
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Reply By: Member - Banjo The First (SA) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:41

Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:41
I've been lucky and not heard such static on any of my UHF's to date (2 of ). I'm told that typical vehicle ciruits won't do it because the are the wrong format - HF yes, but UHF should not pick up things like fridges, EFI etc. I have such issues in my own car - they show up on the long range HF and the 27meg CB HF, plus the car radio (badly) but not a whisker on the UHF's. Could be more likely the radio itself or the antenna setup.
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Reply By: Darryn - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:44

Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:44
Hi Brian, I have a TX 4400 set up as a base station and with the 6db base antenna I get lots of bursts of static that I assume are other people talking who are too far away or in a poor location tobe heard properly. I have found that the Squelch control doesn't seem to do a lot even when turned up fully. There is a transformer on the power pole approx 50 mtrs from my antennas but the static doesn't sound like the usual transformer noise. If most of the noise is on Ch 40 it could be truckies just out of range as I experience, but I would check out the possibilities as mentioned earlier.
Cheers Darryn
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Reply By: Member - JD - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:06

Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:06
Hi Brian A,
Do it by the numbers,
Check and clean earth conections,probably the most important.
Check antenea mount,clean and make sure good clean and tight.
Check coax cable for brake in the insulation,fix with insulation tape..or replace

maybe a engine noise supresor..I think they mount on the power line ?
Have your radio serviced,by a known retputable tech.

Adjust your squelch just until the white noise stops..we really only need to comunicate with or travelling buddies,but if you get in trouble by your self dont forget to turn your squelch off as it will retard your send.

Once you check all the above and still have it....its probably just out of range transmission..like the broken garble you hear,but there just far enought away they only send niose.I'm no expert but I would aproach it in a manner similier to this.Hope this helps
JD4WDActivist
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Follow Up By: teclink - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 18:20

Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 18:20
Brian here is a bit of general info on fitting any radio which may help. UHF radios for best reception have a different aerial depending on the situation, such as open country, hilly/mountains or town. All of them are a compromise in other situations.
Noise suppression is very important in most new 4wd. A useful way of handling this is to mount a battery suppressor under the bonnet, available from jaycar or car stereo shop for about $30, and then fit an auxillary fuse block from which all your radios, gps, amplifiers, etc can be connected. Noise suppressors should also be fitted to the alternator output and the one that is always forgotten is the oil pressure sensor. The little electrical ones don't require it but the older, larger ones are filled with charcoal which produces alot of RF interference.(usually heard as a high pitch screem when on AM radio)
Any equipment using an electric motor produces ground loop interference (eg fidge) should have a short earth lead attached made from flat braided cable. Bonnets with worn hinges can also create static interference which can be cured with the same braided cable across the hinges.
All of these solutions are more critical the further you go down the frequency range. eg HF should have all these areas covered.
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