Awning Mat or Shadecloth?
Submitted: Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 21:56
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ShnogDog
Hi people, I'm looking for some advice or opinions on what to use as matting under the awning when
camping. I've seen shadecloth used before, but cant recall if it was one layer or doubled over. I've also seen awning matting (2.5mtrs wide) selling for $50 per metre, which I though was pretty dear. I can get shadecloth in 3.6 metre width for less than half of that. I guess, I'd just like to hear if anyone has used either or both and what they thought.
I'm taking the family to Noosa North Shore / Teewah in a camper trailer in Jan. Our youngest is 11months and is nearly walking, so I'd like to have some kind of matting to provide a reasonably tidy floor under the awning.
Your experience, ideas, thoughts and input will be much appreciated.
Cheers
Mark
Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:09
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:09
Buy the cheapest stuff you can.. Its only to walk on and get dirty!
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Widgiemooltha) - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:14
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:14
That would be that blue canvas stuff made in china - probably less than 10 bucks for the neccassary area
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Reply By: Lyds- Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:18
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:18
shadecloth. it hoses, shakes, and some caravan parks won't let you put anything else down.
its tough stuff, no need to double up.
as it can be bulky when folded, don't make it too big.
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:52
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:52
Thanks Lyds, thats perfect advice.
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Reply By: Brian B (QLD) - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:45
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:45
Mark,
Shadecloth is the go and single thickness is fine, and as per previous advice, some
places now won't let you put anything else directly on the ground.
Have a good one.
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:54
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 22:54
Thanks Brian, I'd be annoyed to go out and buy something only to find it cant be used. Cheers. BTW, I hear there is a perched lake somewhere up near freshwater, do you know of it and if so, is it worth a look?
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 23:16
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 23:16
Anyone know where to get CHEAP shadecloth for a tent cheap in
Melbourne??
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Follow Up By: John - Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 23:28
Sunday, Nov 20, 2005 at 23:28
Bunnings @ $4.50/metre - 1.8metre wide
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 22:14
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 22:14
$13+ when I called today :(
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Reply By: Boo - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:49
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 08:49
Hi Mark,
We have both the shadecloth and the awning matting, we use the shadecloth under the tent area and the matting under the awing. We found that the shadecloth wasn't anywhere near as good as the annex matting to walk on. If you setup on ground that isn't grassy, you have things like small stones etc that poke through the shadecloth, however the matting is a little thicker/spongier and gives you some protection. Plus we also found with the shadecloth that after a while when you are putting pegs through it to hold down the camper, the holes start to tear and stretch, however due to the design of the annex matting it doesn't, the hole just remains the same all the time. It is expensive but in my opinion
well worth the extra for the added comfort.
As I said, I have both and have used both and now would never go back to shadecloth in the annex area where you walk, I think you will find that anyone that has used both would agree that the annex matting is a far superior product however you are paying more, so you need to be using it a lot to make it worth while, otherwise if your only
camping occasionally then make do with the shadecloth, it will do the job.
Plus all caravan parks will also allow it to be put down the same as shadecloth as it is the same design, has the holes to allow the grass underneath to breathe.
Just my opinion,
Kerrie
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Reply By: flappa - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:28
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 09:28
The proper Cvan Awning matting IS by far the best stuff , but , its $$$$$$.
We use shadecloth under ours and works fine. You can get several different UV ratings on shadecloth , from about 70% to 90%. The 90% works better, but, again , its a little more expensive. I use cheapo nasty 70% from somewhere like Clints Crazy Bargins , those warehouse
places.
Mine was 3.6m wide for about $3 a metre.
The downside of shadecloth is , if it does get wet , its can be a little slippery , and , if like what happened to us , you get REALLY wet , doesn't stop the mud.
You have 2 alternatives with shadecloth. Either buy your own , complete with normal edges that can roll up , and you need to stake down however you can (cheap though), or buy a ready made one from a
camping place , OzTRail make them. About $80 for a floor for the CT, has eyes , hems etc , so they are pretty good.
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Reply By: Tracker Mick - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:25
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 10:25
Shnog Dog,
There is a lake up the freshwater track, just head back inland on the track and you will see the signs-
picnic area and all.
Go the shadecloth-does the job and cheap.
Tracker Mick
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 00:05
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 00:05
Thanks Mick, I know about
freshwater lake and have been there a few times. There is another one in the area, which I now know is called lake Poona. Its about 2kms walk from the
camping ground or
carpark at Freshwater I think. No vehicular acess, but thats fine. Apparently a nice walk. Will be checking it out in Jan.
Cheers
Mark
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Reply By: Member - Colin (WA) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 13:35
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 13:35
Hi Mark,
We have used shadecloth for the last few years and had no probs except on rocky ground as the cloth is very thin and gives no protection as stated earllier.
We just bought the better matting 5m x 2.4m from Camec for $160 after using a friends one in sandy conditions it let the sand through much better than our shadecloth. Will still use the shadecloth for the kids tent.
Both are good just comes down to $$$.
Regards
Col
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Reply By: MikeyS - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 14:03
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 14:03
Mark
We have used both under our awning from time to time- as always, pros and cons for both, but at the end of the day the differences aren't that significant. The matting is expensive and as you said, you don't get very wide widths. So we usually have to supplement with a strip of shadecloth down the side of the awning anyway. The matting does feel better to walk or lie on, and it doesn't get stuff like grass seeds and twigs stuck in it as much as shadecloth. Then, shadecloth is cheaper, comes on rolls of wider widths, and seems to work just as
well, especially 90% blockout folded double to keep out sand. Plus, you don't feel as reluctant to cut off a bit of shadecloth to make a "stinky" or even a disposable strainer (works great for pasta!). So, from our experience using both, it doesn't make much difference. Although, shadecloth with matting on top is really nice, but you might as
well lay floorboards and carpet if going to that extreme.
Cheers
MikeyS
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Follow Up By: MikeyS - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 14:05
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 14:05
Oh yeah, and you can actually use shadecloth as,
well, shadecloth if you want!
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Reply By: Ted(Vic) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 15:39
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 15:39
I've used both.
Annexe matting has some bulk to it and will protect your vinyl floor of your CT from small holes.
Under awning I'd use doubled shade cloth.
Ted
PS $50m is far too dear. I've seen it for around $42 at Clark Rubber I think.
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Follow Up By: ShnogDog - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 00:07
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 00:07
Thanks Ted, the CT is a hardfloor, so its just the area under the awning that I want to cover. Shade cloth sounds like it will do just fine.
Cheers
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Reply By: Willem - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 17:50
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 17:50
What about the interlocking rubber matting?
They come in squares of .6m x.6m. Normally can be bought in a packet of 4 giving 1.2m square cover. Prices are around $20 for a packet of 4 but have seen them down to $15.
We have some and they work
well. The downside is that they are a tad bulky to carry.
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Reply By: Member - Bware - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 18:18
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 18:18
Never used shadecloth but was fortunate enough to receive matting as a gift. It's great stuff and while not travelling it covers the concrete outside the backdoor and creates a soft landing for our
young son.
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 19:24
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 19:24
So where do you find Annex Matting? might price it for a laugh
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Reply By: Peter W - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 20:01
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 20:01
Hi Mark,
Have used shade cloth for a number of years and found it did the job....and cheaply. Updated to awning matting recently and purchased through Aussie Traveller (
Brisbane and
Melbourne) where they call it
Camping Carpet. Initial quote near $38 per metre but actually got a deal below $30 per metre (I think I got lucky). A little heavier to carry than shade cloth but in my opinion better for the job and would be great for the youngster. But it all comes down to dollars.
Cheers.
Peter W.
"Life is not a Rehearsal"
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:16
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:16
What about that artifical grass stuff? They had that at the warehouse today $27 a mtr... no good for under tent, but would be good for awning area.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:45
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:45
70% Shadecloth is the go mate. (The fawn colour is best on the eyes too).
70% is the cheapest and because the weave is more "open", sand, dirt etc. just falls through as you pick it up. Lighter than the 90% option as
well.
If you want to get really carried away, you can belt some eyelets along the edge to enable easy pegging down of the cloth.
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Follow Up By: Member - AdrianLR (VIC) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:58
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 21:58
Was going to post the same about the colour - we put a light biege inside the camper annex and it brightened up the place a lot. 70% is fine.
I went to the trouble of eyelets but found that they tore through more than just putting a thin tent peg through two layers of cloth.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 22:14
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 22:14
I was thinking the eyelets would rip out.. bummer was thinkin of doin that
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Follow Up By: Member - AdrianLR (VIC) - Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 22:22
Monday, Nov 21, 2005 at 22:22
I think it's because to put the eyelet in you have to cut the strands and it allows the cloth to come apart. With the pegs you can slip them between the threads or at worst break only a couple.
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Follow Up By: flappa - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:37
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 09:37
A guy I know uses gal roofing nails to hold his shadecloth floor down.
Cheap and easy
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 18:53
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 18:53
Haven't had any problem with the eyelets.
There's bugger all tension on them.
I use them cause the first ground sheet ended up like a piece of swiss cheese. Kept putting new holes in each time.
What I did was get out the Janome and run a 2" hem around the edge.
This gave the whole sheet additional strength and because the edges are doubled over, they tend to lay flatter on the ground. Perhaps the eyelets were given additional strength too because of the doubled over hem.
If only I could teach Bev how to use the sewing machine.
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Reply By: Steve - Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 19:34
Tuesday, Nov 22, 2005 at 19:34
I reckon shadecloth is best. We use it double in the high traffic areas (outside the annexe/van door and single elsewhere. You can buy brass rings from Lincraft or Spotlight and put them around the edges to line up with your annexe pegs. Neat job and easy. If the
cook can sew as
well, just get her to hem it all around the edge;-)
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