Price of Diesel

I thought it had dropped the other day???

Ozi,

I actually thought of that cheap crap Safeway Fuel, but after talking to an ex servo owner today that now owns local air cond place, I wont ever go near one again... He owned a Goldern Fleece(yes how long ago is that!) and a Caltex... He almost couldnt compete with the cut fuel of these places. He told me of many tricks they do, not only from where they buy it, (most safeway comes from O/S who knows what quality it is), but once in the ground.

Safeway since buying Shells Servos off them are now 2nd biggest player in the country in Fuel!

Oh well, caltex and bp here still sell real fuel.

Truckster, come on, speaking to a disgruntled service station owner who could not run a good show and compete and consequently got forced out the industry has a bigger axe to grind than some others.
What are all these 'supposed tricks' they do? I bet you are not big enough to repeat them.

Wooworths/Safeway predominantly use all Australian produced fuel, but at times do use some imported fuel like all the major oil companies do.

I heard Coles Myer had bought the Shell Service Stations, not Woolworths/Safeway.

You had better do a quick re-think on your Caltex fuel. They cannot meet the standard of January 1st 2003 and the story goes, the chemical masking agent they are using reduces the calorific value. Now, that is hearsay, and have not had a reply yet from Caltex over this matter. Reason, I get a substantial amount of Caltex diesel free and would prefer the better quality diesel.

Oziexplorer posted this followup
Truckster, come on, speaking to a disgruntled service station owner who could not run a good show and compete and consequently got forced out the industry has a bigger axe to grind than some others.

Why is he disgruntled? that was yrs ago. He now does Air conditioning, not fuel.

He has nothing to lose... He doesnt sell fuel, he is now in the same boat as you and me.

What are all these 'supposed tricks' they do? I bet you are not big enough to repeat them.
Whats the point... You dont believe anything anyone else but yourself says anyway.

Ditto

Axel and of course being the ignaramous fool you are you did nothing about it while you where on the driveway. Don't be a fraudulent liar and make yourself look worse than you already specialise in doing.

If you had 1% of a brain and/or technical knoweldge or abilty to find out, you would realise today sort of error is just not possible today.

Oziexplorer..... Of course it is possible for a servo pump to put more or even less fuel compared to the pump readout. I own a truck and have been in a situation where the pump was not calabrated properly and i actually recieved more fuel in my tank then what the pump said.This was discovered by the fuel station when they did their checks on their storage tanks. Fuel pumps like any commercial measuring equipment has to be calabrated on a reagular basis. As somtimes problems do occur On the goldcoast I am paying about 86 cents for diesel. Spend up to five grand a month on fuel so watch every litre and dollar rise carfully,as it can make a big difference. Glen

Glen, yes, some pumps can, but the modern digital terminal pumps used by Woolworths/Safeway and other sites, are a go/no go system. The maximum vaiance they will give before they shut down is 3%.
The high volume diesel pumps normally use the older type VeederRoot meters which can give you larger errors both ways. The new high speed diesel pumps I believe use an LLC meter, but need to clarify that.

I always fill the 30 l subtank on the Patrol first and then argue with the owner if its wrong. Bloody ripoff merchants should be shot.

Axel, come on, Ozi knows everything, dont argue with him... hes scottish, you wont win even when your right..

Safeway/Woolies are the only servos on the planet now, and their diesel and petrol is T H E stuff... Untouched, comes from O/S so its the good stuff, cant be cut down with additives... Their Pumps are 100% correct ALWAYS, same as BP, CALTEX, etc....

Like Taxis with their sealed meters, they cant be played with.. <<-- LARGE AMOUNTS OF LIES HERE....

We have all done it... Ive put 104 ltrs in my 95 ltr tank in Marrickville when it wasnt MT! The guy freaked that I checked.. and then tried to play dumb... Got the fuel for free though!

If ever in doubt, buy a 5 ltr tin off their shelf, and fill it, see what you get.

Axel proves what a liar you are. Those type of pumps cannot be that far out under any circumstances. They would also not close the service station down, they would merely close the one faulty pump. Axel I have a great life, it is a real bummer and tough having education and wealth. Things you can acquire if you aspire to work for them.
You can find an English language dictionary here:
http://www.m-w.com/
to look up the meaning of the words.

Axel & Truckster

Don't even bother talking to Ozi as he is a well known pain in the A on another site. Actually he is probably the most well known pain there is on the web. He believes nothing anyone else has to say and he is always right. To prove the point have a look on the gold prospecting Yahoo site and you will see what I mean. He goes under a different screen name. If you watch his comments enough you will see he has no idea and has given out a lot of incorrect technical advice. Yes he has a basic understanding of stuff all and that's about it. Most people ignore him.

And in the world of Ozi the fuel bowser is always right,impossible to be wrong, just as the TITANIC was unsinkable...

Axel you poor pathetic jealous little mental defective. Why don't you go and find a job and get educated instead of being such a foolish apology for a person. Why are you pathetic weasels always jealous of people that have been well educated, do work hard and have acquired wealth and some of the better toys. Axel there are hundreds of thousands of educated people, unfortuantly not enough, and we have to suffer and pay for the bludging apologies of humans like you. When did you last have a job instead of getting social security?

Ozi, this is getting silly!
Your use of language (in every sense of the word) does you no credit, neither does it reflect well on the forum.

Similarly, your constant need to argue and justify yourself is not what I would expect from an 'educated' person. Have you ever considered there might be more dignified ways of making your point?

Many people on the forum, including myself, value many of your contributions but it all gets undone when you blow your circuit breaker.

If you wish to debate the merits of education in a derogatory manner, there are undoubtedly other forums to indulge that particular fancy. If you wish to engage in stimulating debate you could achieve that here - I do it for a living. So let's elevate the intellectual level somewhat, shall we?

Axel you have proved yourself a pathetic liar so many times before, you wrote your own track record.

Truckster why not tell the truth and say you don't like educated people with substantially more knowledge and abilty. Instead of lazing around being a pain, you could of course go to university and do something useful and get an education. Ideal time of the year with universities taking enrolements.

Ozi... Do you know me, or my situation?

You moronic piece of bleep , I was in a hit and run, Ive had 28 operations and Im still getting over all this.

At the time I was Network Administrator for the second biggest ISO Accreditation company on the planet. So theres your uneducated bit stick it up your ass.. I have more certifications than you have brain cells, I have 5.

Believe me I'd LOVE to work right now, unlike your fat ancient self, which is no more use than sitting there like a pile of shiat on a log.... But Im still going thru 4 days a week physio after my last operation.
Pics to help shut Ozi up


Again my apologies to the humans here. but this piece of crap bleep s me.

Truckster you need some good quality rope. Buy some Kevlar rope and put it to a great use and save Australia.

Truckster, you just know that Ozi will not shut ,his ego will not allow him to,he has found a forum where he can do and say as he pleases ,you know as well as I do that some of his posts are actually informative,few and far between sadly as he spends all day replying to any and all querys whether he knows of the subject or not,,rather sad really,,,,,,,

Oziexplorer blerted meaningless dribble as usual that is nobody cares about.


Truckster you need some good quality rope. Buy some Kevlar rope and put it to a great use and save Australia.

Yes many agree throwing it around your neck, over a branch, throwing the other end aorund your towbar, and brick on accelerator, then driving of a cliff would save us oxygen.

Would not bother with Kevlar rope for Ozi ,,, cheaper and better available for the purpose just the old telecom blue and yellow nylon...it really is a pity that the laws were changed to the extent that once when a man was sullied his only recourse is through the judicial system instead of just putting quick and fair justice into play,,, a,,,,holes as our Ozi would of course still get away with denigrating all and sundry, we have all yet to hear of our esteemed Ozi,s real life,,,WHY NOT DO YOU ASK,,,sorry he has not got one.

Stevo, glad to see it brightens your day, if you look in the archives you will see how easy it is to wind up Ozi, just takes one opinion that differs from his own to get him started,,be it on any subject.

For some reason Ozi thinks hes educated...


As Axel says, just say something that the fat moron doesnt agree with and its on! easier than shooting deer cornered in a paddock!

Axel, 'fat moron' well I don't think 83kg's is fat.

At least I am not a fraudulent mental defective like you have proved you are. Pirate software, defrauding the Commonwealth of Australia - all your own posts. A rather deceitful weak person would you not say.
Truckster, there is help for your type - seek it out.

Ozi ,point 1... I have never called you fat,,,83kg depends on how tall ect.
point 2 ....moron ,,nah,,to nice a word for the likes of you.
point 3....pirate software, [ you havent ???? ] prove it.
point 4....defraud the commonwealth ofAustralia,, get real,,or prove it,,, soon the first test case of internet generated LIBEL will be heard in Vic,,,,, and nothing would please me more than for you to be the 2nd.....

Rojac,could never happen face to face ,,,have another look at the photo of Ozis pride and joy,,you will see why he has to vent his spleen on the net.

Tod what 'gold programming crap'. Never have I been involved in any 'gold programming crap' or any other sort of programming to do with gold in any way. I only prospect and mine gold.
Bummer when you pathetic little kids so frequently get things wrong.

Sorry Gold Sherpa that was Joe with the software programming my mistake. But hey have a look at this little extract from the gold site......tell me this is not you Ozi.

From: Gold_Sherpa Sent: 2/10/2002 9:42 PM
You obviously have a major malfunction in evey way, and seriously suggest you see a high level psychiartist for your major problems.

You should also visit a high mountain and jump off for your rank stupidity. If you are afraid of heights, I am more than happy to send you a rope.

Now now Ozi is that you or your clone?????? Your are an absolute legend. Won't be long now before you change your name and attempt to vandalise another forum.