Price of Diesel

Submitted: Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 13:54
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Went to fill up today, nearly shiat my pants, everywhere was 97.8 - 99.9...

Did I go to sleep and wake up on the wrong planet?0

WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Member - Andrew - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:04

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:04
Truckster,
I read somewhere that one of "those" countries O.S. is hoicking the price of their crude.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:09

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:09
I thought it had dropped the other day???
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Reply By: OziExplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:08

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:08
Hear on the radio this morning about how you must expect fuel to rise dramatically over the next couple of weeks. The guy said a $1 litre will be normal. About time John Howard handed back some of the massive windfall of tax back in fuel tax reduction. Could make an immediate affect. Pity we have such a weak disastrous dumb stupid Federal Opposition party.

Truckster, of course, if you really wanted to be smart, you could take your Safeway/Woolworths vouchers down to +Petrol and presently get 6c a litre off. Good savings in your pocket, and if you have a good deal with your credit card, you can get more free fuel on your credit card.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:13

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:13
Ozi,

I actually thought of that cheap crap Safeway Fuel, but after talking to an ex servo owner today that now owns local air cond place, I wont ever go near one again... He owned a Goldern Fleece(yes how long ago is that!) and a Caltex... He almost couldnt compete with the cut fuel of these places. He told me of many tricks they do, not only from where they buy it, (most safeway comes from O/S who knows what quality it is), but once in the ground.

Safeway since buying Shells Servos off them are now 2nd biggest player in the country in Fuel!

Oh well, caltex and bp here still sell real fuel.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:42

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:42
Truckster, come on, speaking to a disgruntled service station owner who could not run a good show and compete and consequently got forced out the industry has a bigger axe to grind than some others.
What are all these 'supposed tricks' they do? I bet you are not big enough to repeat them.

Wooworths/Safeway predominantly use all Australian produced fuel, but at times do use some imported fuel like all the major oil companies do.

I heard Coles Myer had bought the Shell Service Stations, not Woolworths/Safeway.

You had better do a quick re-think on your Caltex fuel. They cannot meet the standard of January 1st 2003 and the story goes, the chemical masking agent they are using reduces the calorific value. Now, that is hearsay, and have not had a reply yet from Caltex over this matter. Reason, I get a substantial amount of Caltex diesel free and would prefer the better quality diesel.

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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:52

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 14:52
Oziexplorer posted this followup
Truckster, come on, speaking to a disgruntled service station owner who could not run a good show and compete and consequently got forced out the industry has a bigger axe to grind than some others.

Why is he disgruntled? that was yrs ago. He now does Air conditioning, not fuel.

He has nothing to lose... He doesnt sell fuel, he is now in the same boat as you and me.

What are all these 'supposed tricks' they do? I bet you are not big enough to repeat them.
Whats the point... You dont believe anything anyone else but yourself says anyway.
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Reply By: Gary - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 15:02

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 15:02
Im sorry to say that I have being paying over a dollar a litre for fuel for years now, I live in the northwest aus.
I guess the next time I fuel up the patrol it will be around the $1.40 mark....bugger
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Follow Up By: Allyn - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 10:36

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 10:36
Ditto
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Reply By: Axel - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 17:13

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 17:13
Truckster,just as bad in Qld, and we are suposed to have an 8.3 cents per litre advantage yet our price has hit the same as N.S.W and Vic.,,,as far as the woolworths/ safeway cents per litre off,, can someone please explain how an 85ltr tank showing 1/3 full [no the fuel gauge is not sticking and is reasonably acurate ],woolworths servo fillup 96.3 litres,,,
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 17:18

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 17:18
Axel and of course being the ignaramous fool you are you did nothing about it while you where on the driveway. Don't be a fraudulent liar and make yourself look worse than you already specialise in doing.

If you had 1% of a brain and/or technical knoweldge or abilty to find out, you would realise today sort of error is just not possible today.
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Follow Up By: Glen - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:08

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:08
Oziexplorer..... Of course it is possible for a servo pump to put more or even less fuel compared to the pump readout. I own a truck and have been in a situation where the pump was not calabrated properly and i actually recieved more fuel in my tank then what the pump said.This was discovered by the fuel station when they did their checks on their storage tanks. Fuel pumps like any commercial measuring equipment has to be calabrated on a reagular basis. As somtimes problems do occur On the goldcoast I am paying about 86 cents for diesel. Spend up to five grand a month on fuel so watch every litre and dollar rise carfully,as it can make a big difference. Glen
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:20

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:20
Glen, yes, some pumps can, but the modern digital terminal pumps used by Woolworths/Safeway and other sites, are a go/no go system. The maximum vaiance they will give before they shut down is 3%.
The high volume diesel pumps normally use the older type VeederRoot meters which can give you larger errors both ways. The new high speed diesel pumps I believe use an LLC meter, but need to clarify that.
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Follow Up By: Bonza - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:40

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:40
I always fill the 30 l subtank on the Patrol first and then argue with the owner if its wrong. Bloody ripoff merchants should be shot.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:51

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:51
Axel, come on, Ozi knows everything, dont argue with him... hes scottish, you wont win even when your right..

Safeway/Woolies are the only servos on the planet now, and their diesel and petrol is T H E stuff... Untouched, comes from O/S so its the good stuff, cant be cut down with additives... Their Pumps are 100% correct ALWAYS, same as BP, CALTEX, etc....

Like Taxis with their sealed meters, they cant be played with.. <<-- LARGE AMOUNTS OF LIES HERE....

We have all done it... Ive put 104 ltrs in my 95 ltr tank in Marrickville when it wasnt MT! The guy freaked that I checked.. and then tried to play dumb... Got the fuel for free though!

If ever in doubt, buy a 5 ltr tin off their shelf, and fill it, see what you get.
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Reply By: johnsy - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:15

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 19:15
Welcome to the dollar plus club for diesel $1.07 now in Alice .For your info a lot of diesel in the Territory comes from Asia and Safeway diesel is BP in Alice got to go and hit the boss for a raise .
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Reply By: Axel - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 20:37

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 20:37
OZI,,KEEP YOUR HOLIER THAN THOU VITOROL TO YOUR SELF YA F-U-KWITT,THE SERVO WAS INFORMED ABOUT THE VARIENCE AND THE PUMPS WERE FOUND TO BE FAULTY,STATION WAS SHUT DOWN FOR 36HOURS SO ALL PUMPS COULD BE RECALIBRATED ,OZI,GET YOURSELF A LIFE.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:09

Tuesday, Jan 07, 2003 at 21:09
Axel proves what a liar you are. Those type of pumps cannot be that far out under any circumstances. They would also not close the service station down, they would merely close the one faulty pump. Axel I have a great life, it is a real bummer and tough having education and wealth. Things you can acquire if you aspire to work for them.
You can find an English language dictionary here:
http://www.m-w.com/
to look up the meaning of the words.
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Follow Up By: Tod - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 14:39

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 14:39
Axel & Truckster

Don't even bother talking to Ozi as he is a well known pain in the A on another site. Actually he is probably the most well known pain there is on the web. He believes nothing anyone else has to say and he is always right. To prove the point have a look on the gold prospecting Yahoo site and you will see what I mean. He goes under a different screen name. If you watch his comments enough you will see he has no idea and has given out a lot of incorrect technical advice. Yes he has a basic understanding of stuff all and that's about it. Most people ignore him.
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 17:15

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 17:15
And in the world of Ozi the fuel bowser is always right,impossible to be wrong, just as the TITANIC was unsinkable...
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Reply By: Savvas - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 07:58

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 07:58
Ozi ... Of course pumps can be wrong. I watched my father-in-law pump $27 of air into their Commodore. The pump was running but nothing was coming out. At the same time, another lady came in to fill her car and that pump started ringing up dollars before she even had the nozzle inserted in the filler. Again, no fuel coming out. Needless to say, two disgruntled customers simultaneously had the servo attendant putting out the "do not use this pump" signs.
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Reply By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 08:56

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 08:56
And Ozi is back on track as the only one in the country with an education,,now he claims a helicopter and a fleet of vehicles and m/cycles,yet never any tangible proof of any of his claims to his self inflicted glory , jealous of Ozi with his extreme ego and Walter Mitty complex, I think not,
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:51

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:51
Axel you poor pathetic jealous little mental defective. Why don't you go and find a job and get educated instead of being such a foolish apology for a person. Why are you pathetic weasels always jealous of people that have been well educated, do work hard and have acquired wealth and some of the better toys. Axel there are hundreds of thousands of educated people, unfortuantly not enough, and we have to suffer and pay for the bludging apologies of humans like you. When did you last have a job instead of getting social security?
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser1 - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 10:08

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 10:08
Ozi, this is getting silly!
Your use of language (in every sense of the word) does you no credit, neither does it reflect well on the forum.

Similarly, your constant need to argue and justify yourself is not what I would expect from an 'educated' person. Have you ever considered there might be more dignified ways of making your point?

Many people on the forum, including myself, value many of your contributions but it all gets undone when you blow your circuit breaker.

If you wish to debate the merits of education in a derogatory manner, there are undoubtedly other forums to indulge that particular fancy. If you wish to engage in stimulating debate you could achieve that here - I do it for a living. So let's elevate the intellectual level somewhat, shall we?
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Reply By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:35

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:35
Ozi,it is so easy to see how insecure you actually are,sugesting that I get job and get off the dole, I have no need for a job or social security,,self funded and retired at 47 with an investment portfolio that generates 5x the average Australian male weekly wage,,oh and yes I too have a helicopter,runs on 9.6 volts ,you can buy them at tandy electronics.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 15:05

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 15:05
Axel you have proved yourself a pathetic liar so many times before, you wrote your own track record.
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Reply By: Jan - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:45

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:45
Grow up boys. This is a good forum with some very good information posted by experienced people. All your name calling and silly insults really lowers the tone.
Happy postings,
Jan
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Reply By: Mal.h - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:02

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:02
If I wanted to see this sort of carry on I'd much rather watch our Bantam Roosters fight each other. Just as much strutting around and fluffing of chests. This used to be amuzing now getting tiresome.

I'm happy you all got your toys and educations but being the average joe and living a simple life don't need to be beaten around the head how I don't earn the big $$ or have lots of letters after my name.

Come on Guys. Chill. Debate is great but not when it become personal and over the top.

Nuff Said
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Reply By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:18

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:18
David..

kewl on the no posting images up...

Are u going to have somethign like automated uploading, (point to teh image on your puter and it uploads to your server)?

Then it will show the URL to post, or click on the image and it will post for you??

Sounds good to me.



As for Ozi, grow up.. I need to seek Help? Look closer to home.

To the others, I apologise, but I hate no it alls that are never wrong even when they are.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 15:08

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 15:08
Truckster why not tell the truth and say you don't like educated people with substantially more knowledge and abilty. Instead of lazing around being a pain, you could of course go to university and do something useful and get an education. Ideal time of the year with universities taking enrolements.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:33

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:33
Ozi... Do you know me, or my situation?

You moronic piece of bleep , I was in a hit and run, Ive had 28 operations and Im still getting over all this.

At the time I was Network Administrator for the second biggest ISO Accreditation company on the planet. So theres your uneducated bit stick it up your ass.. I have more certifications than you have brain cells, I have 5.

Believe me I'd LOVE to work right now, unlike your fat ancient self, which is no more use than sitting there like a pile of shiat on a log.... But Im still going thru 4 days a week physio after my last operation.
Pics to help shut Ozi up


Again my apologies to the humans here. but this piece of crap bleep s me.

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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:24

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:24
Truckster you need some good quality rope. Buy some Kevlar rope and put it to a great use and save Australia.
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:27

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:27
Truckster, you just know that Ozi will not shut ,his ego will not allow him to,he has found a forum where he can do and say as he pleases ,you know as well as I do that some of his posts are actually informative,few and far between sadly as he spends all day replying to any and all querys whether he knows of the subject or not,,rather sad really,,,,,,,
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:24

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:24
Oziexplorer blerted meaningless dribble as usual that is nobody cares about.


Truckster you need some good quality rope. Buy some Kevlar rope and put it to a great use and save Australia.

Yes many agree throwing it around your neck, over a branch, throwing the other end aorund your towbar, and brick on accelerator, then driving of a cliff would save us oxygen.
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:58

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:58
Would not bother with Kevlar rope for Ozi ,,, cheaper and better available for the purpose just the old telecom blue and yellow nylon...it really is a pity that the laws were changed to the extent that once when a man was sullied his only recourse is through the judicial system instead of just putting quick and fair justice into play,,, a,,,,holes as our Ozi would of course still get away with denigrating all and sundry, we have all yet to hear of our esteemed Ozi,s real life,,,WHY NOT DO YOU ASK,,,sorry he has not got one.
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Reply By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:19

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:19
Forgot to mention..

BP ( I think it was same colors) in Cranbourne 91.3 for Diesel this morning.. Does me no good filled up last night :(
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Reply By: Stevo - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 16:41

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 16:41
I must confess that the electronic atticism displayed in this thread has brought a little light into my dull day.
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 17:28

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 17:28
Stevo, glad to see it brightens your day, if you look in the archives you will see how easy it is to wind up Ozi, just takes one opinion that differs from his own to get him started,,be it on any subject.
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Follow Up By: Truckster - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:34

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:34
For some reason Ozi thinks hes educated...


As Axel says, just say something that the fat moron doesnt agree with and its on! easier than shooting deer cornered in a paddock!
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:27

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 19:27
Axel, 'fat moron' well I don't think 83kg's is fat.

At least I am not a fraudulent mental defective like you have proved you are. Pirate software, defrauding the Commonwealth of Australia - all your own posts. A rather deceitful weak person would you not say.
Truckster, there is help for your type - seek it out.
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 20:26

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 20:26
Ozi ,point 1... I have never called you fat,,,83kg depends on how tall ect.
point 2 ....moron ,,nah,,to nice a word for the likes of you.
point 3....pirate software, [ you havent ???? ] prove it.
point 4....defraud the commonwealth ofAustralia,, get real,,or prove it,,, soon the first test case of internet generated LIBEL will be heard in Vic,,,,, and nothing would please me more than for you to be the 2nd.....
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Reply By: rojac - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:34

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:34
I read this with amusement, if confronted in a face to face situation instead of thru the net would the same banter happen???
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Follow Up By: Axel - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:59

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 18:59
Rojac,could never happen face to face ,,,have another look at the photo of Ozis pride and joy,,you will see why he has to vent his spleen on the net.
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Reply By: tod - Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 08:45

Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 08:45
Ozi or is it Gold Sherpa, how's that useless gold programming crap you tried to invent going. Did you finally get kicked off that gold site. Won't be long before you get kivked off hear too. Steve is right it does gives us something to laugh about.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:08

Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:08
Tod what 'gold programming crap'. Never have I been involved in any 'gold programming crap' or any other sort of programming to do with gold in any way. I only prospect and mine gold.
Bummer when you pathetic little kids so frequently get things wrong.
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Follow Up By: Tod - Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:42

Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 09:42
Sorry Gold Sherpa that was Joe with the software programming my mistake. But hey have a look at this little extract from the gold site......tell me this is not you Ozi.

From: Gold_Sherpa Sent: 2/10/2002 9:42 PM
You obviously have a major malfunction in evey way, and seriously suggest you see a high level psychiartist for your major problems.

You should also visit a high mountain and jump off for your rank stupidity. If you are afraid of heights, I am more than happy to send you a rope.

Now now Ozi is that you or your clone?????? Your are an absolute legend. Won't be long now before you change your name and attempt to vandalise another forum.
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Reply By: Truckster - Friday, Jan 10, 2003 at 21:05

Friday, Jan 10, 2003 at 21:05
Now the local Safeway is over $1.00!!!!!!! for their pure 100% chinese fuel.... ULP, Diesel and Premium!!!


Told ya it wouldnt take long.
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