New diesel fuel

Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 01:54
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Does anyone know when the new reduced sulphur diesel fuel will be available in NSW. I understood that it was to be in use as from the 1st January.

Further, I understand that it has been available in Victoria and W.A. for some time now. Are there any noticeable differences in performance, economy, smoke, etc. and will it have any effect on rubber seals, Orings, etc., particularly in older diesels.

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Reply By: tour boy - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:53

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 06:53
Jim, is this the euro diesel you are talking about?
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Follow Up By: Member - Jim - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 08:44

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 08:44
I am not sure if it is "Euro diesel" yet. As I understand it, the sulphur content is to be reduced to 1 part per 50 as from 1/1/03 with further reductions to 1 in 500 within the next 3 or 4 years, and that some "new" diesel engines such as Pajero did, BMW, and others are becoming available in anticipation that our "new" fuel will meet the specifications required and now in use in Europe. It is supposed to me smoke free and much less pulutant than the "stuff" that we have been using.
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Follow Up By: Oziexplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:26

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:26
Tour boy here is a URL for BP
http://www.bp.com.au/products/fuels/bp_ecoultra/eco.asp
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Reply By: OziExplorer - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 07:51

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 07:51
Jim I would say it is available in Victoria and have been using it. I filled up with a load of Caltex diesel on Sunday and my diesel smoked going up the hills. Caltex diesel does not meet the new standard and Caltex is using a chemical mask which obviously is useless. This is environmental vandilism at its worst by Caltex. Unfortuantly I get quite a bit of Caltex fuel free, but will in future restrict to using it for the petrol vehicles.
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Reply By: Michael Ralston - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:12

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:12
The low sulphur fuel apparantly does affect the seals in the diesel pumps in pre 1994 Toyota diesels and they will need to be upgraded.
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Reply By: tour boy - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:52

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 09:52
Thanks Ozie will check it out.
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Reply By: Will - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:03

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:03
Jim,

I always use BP fuel and I noticed since the new year the fuel is blueish instead of the honey colour (I have a clear water-sedimenter trap).
There have not been any changes in power or smoke.

Will
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Reply By: Will - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:55

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 11:55
Jim,

I have just been in touch with BP and the bluish-green colour is related to the low sulphur fuel.
They confirmed that I am now running on that fuel.

Will
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Reply By: bruce.h - Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:09

Wednesday, Jan 08, 2003 at 21:09
dont rush to buy it we have had it wa for some time not good for the seals of your fuel pump they tend to dry out & crack replaced mine once
& lasted about 6 months before it started to leak again
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Follow Up By: Will - Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 16:25

Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 16:25
Bruce,
They tell me that is a problem with older pumps, how old is yours what make?
We have no choice now, it has been introduced in Australia for good now since the 1st of january....

Will
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Follow Up By: Bruce.H - Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 20:41

Thursday, Jan 09, 2003 at 20:41
Will
It was an 89 GQ,but i have heard of alot new ones having the same problem ie 12 months old yes i gree its definatly here to stay when it was intruduced here 90% of the public would not have been even aware of the change over,probaly the same now
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Reply By: victor - Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:35

Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 12:35
So what fuel do you buy?
I am condidering buying a new Jackaroo turbo diesel but i am concerned about fuel problems, apart from that I think it's a sound vehicle. Any comments and suggestions appreciated
regards Victor
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Follow Up By: Jim - Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 20:43

Monday, Jan 27, 2003 at 20:43
Since posting my original question, I have been told that BP (and some other major Fuel Coys) are now selling 500 ppm sulphur diesel and it is anticipated that 50 ppm lulphur diesel will be introduced by 2006.

BP will be making 50 ppm sulphur diesel available to its commercial customers who have bulk storage facilities as from February 2003 IN Perth, Kalgoorlie and Brisbane.

I have owned a Landcruiser 80 series turbo diesel for the past 7 years and have tended to shop around and buy fuel on price, regardless of supplier. I have never had any problems, but I suppose that I will never know if I have been harming the engine or not, or if I have been getting the best economy.

I have just purchased a new 100 series Turbo diesel Landcruiser, and, for the time being anyway, intend to purchase diesel only from the major suppliers, BP, Mobil, Shell, etc., as I have also been told that a lot of the discounter suppliers have been adding all sorts of additives, which can have the effect of "diluting" the fuel. Whilst their additives might or might not be detrimental to engines, I feel that the majors have certain reputations that they have to uphold and believe that it is in my best interests to stick to the majors, for the time being, at least.
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