DETROIT DIFF LOCKER

Submitted: Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 18:49
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I have a Toyota 80 series, which i would like to install detroit diff lockers in the fron and rear. I have heard good and bad things, and i am woried about the handling for everyday driving and life expectancy of these lockers in off road rugged situations. Does anybody have detroit lockers and can give me some advice.
Tha.
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Reply By: Topcat (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:10

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 19:10
I have a Detroit Locker fitted to my front diff (75 Series Troopy). The Ee-Z model. Done 80,000kms since it was fitted although it has been used for short periods (4WD) during that time. I haven't had any problems mechanically with it. While it is engaged I haven't noticed any steering difficulties. Maybe because of the power steering. Works great with the LSD at the back. You shouldn't need to put one on the rear diff if the LSD is working OK. Cheers.
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Reply By: Rosco - Qld - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:44

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:44
One of the blokes in my club has one in the rear of his Hilux. He's quite happy and doesn't appear to have any probs, notwithstanding the strange clunking noise when he turns corners. Apparently that's to be expected tho ..?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Topcat (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:49

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 20:49
Thats normal on all Detroit Lockers. Nothing to worry about.
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Reply By: Chugga - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:21

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:21
I've got an 80 series poverty pack and put a Lokrite in the front diff some 8 years ago. It's brilliant off road and has given me no trouble. So then I thought another one in the rear would be better still and ended up fitting the Detroit. You can get 2 types. One just replaces the diff centre gears while the other replaces the whole carrier assembly as well. This one is obviously more expensive but is the one I bought as it is supposed to be stronger. Off road the car was unstoppable and could climb nearly anything at a crawl BUT what an absolute pig to drive on the road. It clunked and banged and made ratcheting noises on every corner. Towing the van made it worse and when it would let go at speed it sounded like you'd spat the diff out. Despite this it really was a great bit of gear off road. In the end I couldn't stand it anymore and sold it. If you can put up with the clunking on the bitumen and love your offroading, get one. Otherwise consider an air-locker.
Hope this helps.
P.S The locker REPLACES the LSD
P.P.S It also embarrasses me to say that Land Cruiser LSDs throw in the towel at about 50k
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Follow Up By: Chugga - Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:26

Wednesday, Nov 30, 2005 at 23:26
Also, if you have a GXL eg fulltime 4 wd, you can't fit 2 lockers. I don't think you can even fit just a front locker. Check with an off road centre.
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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:30

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:30
While on this subject how fast can you go with your lockers in? I have ARB lockers front and rear, when I am on the soft sand up the beach the troll struggles in the loose stuff sometimes if I don't have the front engaged...but I don't want to drive to fast to brake something....my bother is his hilux clean me up on the soft stuff
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:58

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 09:58
I got a Detriot™ locker fitted to the "almost" Dana™ diff on my Rocsta and it is magic..No on-road problems at all,no doubt,because I always have the good old fashioned,manual "free wheel hubs" in the free position..Had one fitted in the rear diff later..Nearly killed us on a long drive (1000kms) to Brisbane as I never realised my rear tyres were not EXACTLY the same circumference (forget about diameter.No where near accurate enough).We did some swapping around down there,after a bone-chilling nite drive,at Nambour and the "emu was less inclined to bolt for the fence"..Powering up was ok,but lift the foot off the throttle and it tried to throw us onto the on coming traffic..To sum up.Detriot is great in front if you have manual locking hubs in the free position on the black-top (only ones to have..a man's hub) but use a ARB™ type with remote control for the rear,if you really need one in the rear.(You needed a real compressor on board anyway)..Have fun..RockyOne!MPG:7!
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:07

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 10:07
Hey Going Places,forgot to mention I have had ARBs front and rear in my Jeep Wrangler (shown) since day one five years ago..Magic! Note that if ever there is going to be a handling problem,it will present itself promptly in a short wheel base rig like the Wrangler..Just check all air-line are clear of getting snagged,or in my case,the hot exhaust.Had to do an easy hose join repair..Driving on road,I don't even know it is there..Off-road,when engaged.Awesome!..Great spending some-one else's dollars hey!..Have fun..RockyOne (The ARB compressor is a real one..Not a toy)
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Follow Up By: Jeepster - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 15:07

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 15:07
G'Day Rocky any knowledge about lokrite lockers in the front of full time Grand Cherokee's. I'm probably a bit like a lot of people here in that i cannot justify the expense of air lockers for how little they will get used.

Jeepster
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Reply By: V8Diesel - Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 19:53

Thursday, Dec 01, 2005 at 19:53
I've got a Detroit Locker in the rear of my 75 series. Handles the 6.5 Chevy no worries at all and will go most places in 2WD (really!). They are a little bit brutal sometimes and can take a little getting used to on the road, but I swear by them.

Only problem I have is tyre wear and chirping round corners with even slight throttle application.

Constant 4WD will certainly be a problem though.
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Reply By: Member - RockyOne - Friday, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:19

Friday, Dec 02, 2005 at 08:19
Jeepster! Big hi ! Re your fitting Locrite locker to front of your rig..Had a think about that last nite..Best for me just to imagine the rig was mine and checking it out (I could handle that ;-)..Pros: Firstly,re your rigs front end mis-behaving,I doubt it would with todays generation of lockers.Lockers have improved vastly in black-top manners since '94/'95 when my Detriots were fitted to my Rocsta..Bear in mind the Rocsta is a light weight rig and SWB,so your very desirable mid size/weight LWB 4x4 should exhibit exellent on road performance as long as some effort is taken to match the two front tyres in realation to ratios (circumferance)..Mechanicaly,there appear to be no hassles with that brand of locker,bearing in mind,they have been around for a long time now and are handled these days by big name 4x4 distributors..By now,there would be many thousands of them fitted out there and the traffic on all forums I pursue indicate a distinct lack of mechanical failures or undesireable traits.Sorry 'bout the thousand words,but to summerise,I would be quite happy to have the Lockrite diff lockers fitted for the occasional use you indicate..You may well find the increase in confidence off-road after fitting the locker,will see you venturing into terrain you had previously reserved for highly modified rigs..Two other "friends" you should take on such excursions are a high-lift jack and a snatch strap.A basic UHF radio will open up a whole new world for you also..Have fun.RockyOne!MPG:6!
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Reply By: prado_95 - Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 16:20

Sunday, Dec 04, 2005 at 16:20
Only fit a Detriot (or any 'unlocker' like lockright) to a part time 4wd (not 80/100 series GXL or higher trim levels).

They work a treat, and require no driver activity, apart from the load pedal :-)

Do the back first (since its usually going uphill you need them, and the most weight is on the rear wheels).

Dave
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