Tow Ball wear

Submitted: Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 07:07
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I am getting a little tow ball wear, useing the Hyland Hitch and remember seeing a post some time ago RE tow ball wear can anyone shed any light on it i have the 3.5 Hyland Hitch and tow ball weight of around 300kg have spoken to Hayman Reese agents 3 now and all say WD set up correct, van and truck all look ok, have also tried a washer under the ball and have had Dennis Hyland look at the set up and he has said it looks OK. The wear is to the front of the ball ie away from the van.
any suggestions would be a help
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:11

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:11
I can't really offer any ideas other than to say that tow balls are a relatively cheap, wearable item. If you're towing a decent load on a regular basis, I would say you'll just have to buy a new towball once a year or so.
However, I would also be checking the mating surface on the inside of the Hyland Hitch, as it may also be wearing away and could become weakened.
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:46

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:46
Hi Roachie, as you can see i have upgraded, the handbrake got tired of the snow on the roof of the CT and gave me the nod hard roof or no going back to the mountains in the SI NZ for the fishing so this year we are taking over the Phoenix, still got the CT would nto part with it. Have tried the grease bit, and have adjusted the WD a little and that have reduced it nby 50% however the tow ball is leaning a little towards the truck, have checked this with the experts and also have noticed most other tow ball with the 750 are also leaning towards the truck so maybe that the standad fit and i should try it with a strauter tow ball the bal i am useing is the middle shank one and is of course rated to 3.5t., we are thinking of leaving the Nissan over in NZ this year and b uying the Chev Siverado to tow the Phoenix around Aussie in 2007 have you heard anything about them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Dec 25, 2005 at 11:16

Sunday, Dec 25, 2005 at 11:16
Cheers mate,
Sounds like the grease thing might be the go....I never worried about it too much when I used tow balls. I now have a TREG coupling on my box trailer (8 x 5 tandem) as well as the Ultimate (standard fitting for this camper trailer manufacturer).
However, I recall my old grandfather ALWAYS had a his ball greased. As for the shiny covers getting knocked, old pop used to cut a small slice off a tennis ball and squeesze that over the greasy towball. I doubt whether any mongrels would bother flogging one of those and they work well to keep the grease off your clothes and knees etc.
Sorry I can't offer any advice about the big Chev Silverado....don't think I've even seen one!!! hahaha
Good luck mate and Merry Christmas
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Reply By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:15

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:15
300KG ?????????????????????

Surely not.....I don't know of any vehicle - apart from a Unimog (maybe) that is rated to carry 300kg ball weight.

With respect - are you sure your rig isn't a tad dangerous?
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Qld - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:53

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 09:53
350kg on the Fender old mate.

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Follow Up By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:00

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:00
Yikes! How do you find the handling? Even with airbag-assisted suspension to help level the car - is your towbar rated for this weight?

:)

hehe... maybe you should think of moving some of those lead weights down towards the back of the trailer.... ;) LOL!
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Follow Up By: Rosco - Qld - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:10

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 10:10
That's the rated capacity ... I don't go there ;-)
I've not asked the question, but I assume the towbar would be rated for it as it is OEM equipment, fitted by the stealer.

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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C.- Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 12:05

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 12:05
GU Patrols (4.2 diesel, & petrol manual models) are rated for 350kg max.static ball load (3500kg towing capacity).... actual allowable ball load varies according to vehicle load..
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:58

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:58
Hi Omaroo,
Yeah the truck will handle it alright rated to 3.5t and the ball to 350k, hows the rivers up your way many trout in the rivers would not mind a look and a flick if there is, looks great county from the snaps how do you get time to do any work.
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Follow Up By: Member - Omaroo (NSW) - Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 12:11

Monday, Dec 26, 2005 at 12:11
We're on the Murrumbidgee - so it's infested with trout most of the season. Any time you want to come and have a spin, be my guest. Just leave me a message here and I'll see what we can do.

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Reply By: bushy04 - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:38

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 08:38
Just a thought , with the high wieght loading I would,expect wear on the front of the tow ball.
These balls are not made of super hardened steel so wear would have to be expected.
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Reply By: Member - Ed. C.- Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:38

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 11:38
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing....

As others have mentioned, I regard the ball as a (cheap) wearable/replaceable item.. better to have this wear than the female part of the coupling itself....

I think you'll find it's the ball/socket clearance adjuster thingo that is causing the wear... (after replacing ball) I backed off the adjuster thingy just a leeedle bit, & it is much better...

Also, don't forget to put some fresh GREASE in there before ya hook it up each time...

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Reply By: Wizard1 - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 14:12

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 14:12
Oh, please. It doesn't occur to you that a towball weight of 300 KG and perhaps a GVM of the van of around 3 tonne is probably more than the tow ball was designed for.

Most trailers that heavy are pulled using a Pintel hook or ring feeder, not a 50mm towball!

I'd hate to be behind you if the towball gave way!
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Follow Up By: V8troopie - Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 16:12

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 16:12
Wizard, that's what the safety chains are for.

Actually, the boat I tow is at or slightly above 2500kg and the 250kg tow ball load is handled easily by the troopie with just standard rear leaf suspension. There is no undue wear on the ball either after many 1000's of km's of towing.
My tow hitch is rated for 3000kg which I believe is the upper limit for 50mm tow balls.

The original poster may simply have never greased the hitch or the Reese hitch system puts an unusual load on the front end of the tow ball.
A very remote possibility is the ball locking pin being reversed, doable on some hitches I have seen by simply rotating the handle 180 degrees.
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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C.- Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 16:45

Friday, Dec 09, 2005 at 16:45
Ball I'm using has 3.5T stamped on it.... presumably, these ratings would (or should) allow a reasonable safety margin????

The most weight that I would tow would be around the 2000kg mark..
(when I'm collectin' the winter faaarwood:-)))
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Reply By: P.G. (Tas) - Saturday, Dec 10, 2005 at 17:02

Saturday, Dec 10, 2005 at 17:02
G'day all, my only comment is Grease, Grease, Grease. A nice chrome cover over the ball will stop it getting on your clothes. If you are in dusty conditions, simply wipe the towball everytime you unhitch and reapply before you hook up again. Ever see a dry turntable on a semi? They are greased regularly, similar principle, heavy load on a rotating device.

It amazes me how many "dry" towball I see walking around the local supermarket carpark.

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Follow Up By: Member - Ed. C.- Saturday, Dec 10, 2005 at 23:05

Saturday, Dec 10, 2005 at 23:05
Yeah, agree with ya about the grease (I did mention that earlier:-))...

In my experience, the nice chrome covers seem to have a habit of um, (ahem) "growing legs" :-((
(must be someone out there collectin' 'em :-() )

I have yet to see the plain black ones develop this habit, so that is what I use;-))
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 16:11

Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 16:11
Change over to the TREG hitch.

No wear on those.

Mine has been through bulldust and mud but a quick squirt down and a bit of drylube and it's as good as new.

Dead quiet too!
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Follow Up By: 10 Para (Qld) - Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:36

Saturday, Dec 24, 2005 at 19:36
Hi Sand Man the TREG is not an option in this instance, on our camper trailer we use the 3.5 a/t hitch which is far better than the treg and also has a very good saftey feature, you shoul dhave a look at it. but on a caravan it is to hard to hitch up as it require to come in from the side and that is fine a a CT up to ablut 1.5t but when you get up to say 3t it is hard to push in from the sides, i know that the Bushtrackers also have the 3.5A/T hitch but if you really get one of them guy's on his own he will agrre that they are hard to hitch, with the Hyland Hitch it is very easy.
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