H4 globes, Cool Blue, bright white etc

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 11:55
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Seasons greetings to all.

I have Narva replacement lights in the lux (55/100w) and my dad has the hellas (55/100w) in his patrol. We were discussing the possible benefits of the "white" light and wether there would be anything gained or lossed.

The "white"replacement globe is only 55/60w but a brighter light as opposed to the benefits of 100w.

What are your thoughts?

Regards
Andy
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Reply By: Star Bug - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:06

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 12:06
I haven't done a comparison with 55/100's but I replaced the lamps in the car with 55/60 +50's Xenon/Halogen. The same watage but 50% more output compareed to standard lamps.
The result was a marked increase in light. The light is much "whiter" with a slight blue tinge.
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Reply By: Mr Fawlty - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 15:15

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 15:15
The globes you are talking about do give more light at less wattage only as an illusion because of the colour temperature. These globes don't do much if the weather is foggy or wet because of the colour temperature. In wet or foggy conditions a warmer colour temperature will give you better results. When I say warmer I mean toward the yellow side... not bright yellow but an "incandescent" yellow, too warm & you loose visibility. Note how in foggy conditions you can see someones yellow blinkers but their red tail lights fade? That is because of the bandwidth of the yellow light. It's a compromise really, I had "white" globes in my Jack but replaced them with "All weather"...
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Follow Up By: Wisey (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 15:35

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 15:35
Mr Faulty
I got the gist of what the lights are about but what are the "all weather" globes you mention?
Andy
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 16:04

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 16:04
You can get them at most Auto electrics places they have a slightly( very slight) yellowish tinge. I should clarify... I use the blue globes in my driving lights and the all weather ones in the headlights, driving lights in fog & rain don't sdo much except blind you as the beams react with the water in th atmosphere & creat cats eyes & reflect it back at you, ever noticed this when you hit high beam in rain at night?
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Follow Up By: rolande- Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 18:21

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 18:21
My experience is contrary to this, I have 100/90 Blue , (read" all weather),globes in the standard headlight, and "normal" 100W globes in the driving lights, in rain or fog the driving lights show up the rain and reflect off it, while the blue lights make the rain go away, so I drive on high beam without the driving lights on. Owners of Lighforce spotties comment that the blue lens is better than the yellow for driving in rain/fog
Rolande
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Reply By: awill4x4 - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 16:26

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 16:26
Here's a great site with a wealth of information on lights, bulbs and all lighting products.
daniel stern lighting
Regards Andrew.

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Reply By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 17:24

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 17:24
I bought a set of replacement bulbs (white light) at the Philipps stand at the last 4WD show. They are the same specs as original (GU III ST-L Patrol) so no HD wiring loom is required. I also replaced the bulbs in the driving lights.

I am most impressed. Philipps claimed a 50% increase in light. They had a display showing all of the options and as a result and after discussion with the expert I went for the white rather than the blue. (He seemed to think that the blue was only for the boy racers wanting to sex up their NISMOS etc). The display also included a table indicating approval or not by Road transport Regulations! From memory the higher rated ones, including the blue lights were not approved.

Country driving is now a pleasure on high and low beam. The original Nissan equipment is very yellow in comparison. Total cost for 4 bulbs was $70.00. Fitting was easy except for the LH main which is a tight squeeze for your hand/arm.

This is the cheapest and best mod I have done.

Kings

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Follow Up By: Wisey (NSW) - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 19:50

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 19:50
Thanks Kings and Allwill4x4, interesting reading.
Now I wonder if mine are actually legal on road or only off road

Cheers
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Reply By: Exploder - Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 19:55

Sunday, Dec 11, 2005 at 19:55
I have the Philips Crystal Vision 4300K Globes, they seem less bright around the City due to all the other lights around, but when you get out onto dark country roads they are much better than the normal globes the illumination on objects is way better than with standard globes.
I have also used the Blue Vision, which is one below the Crystal Vision globes they are also very good and I feel are more of a all wether globe.
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Reply By: muzzgit (WA) - Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 00:57

Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 00:57
I bought a set of Philips 50+ globes for my Cibie oscar spotties. Although the light is whiter than before, they do not shine as far down the street.

I took them out and my mate has put them in the hi beam of his 80S cruiser, he loves 'em.

I have since put 50+ in the headlights of my 2000 GU and found them to be very good.
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Follow Up By: Wisey (NSW) - Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 16:46

Monday, Dec 12, 2005 at 16:46
Muzzgit
thats along the lines of thought that we had for our headlights, so thanks for your expeirence.
Thanks to the rest for the other info. :))

Christmas cheers and beers to all

Andy
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