2005 GU Patrol Rear Lights

Submitted: Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:35
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I have a 2005 Nissan Patrol ST, which has dummy rear lights.
I have seen this model vehicle driving around with these lights working which I assume is an aftermarket mod.
Can anybody point me in the right direction to finding somewhere I can get this done.
I live in Melbourne.

Thanks, Corey
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Reply By: Member - David 0- Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:43

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:43
I don't know about the mod, but no it isn't ADR compliant. The apare tyre impinges on the viewing angle therefore no allowed to have them as brake lights. Silly...the more brake lights the better I reckon
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:53

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:53
David,
I think you'll find that would only be a problem if you also disabled the vehicle's supplied brake/tail/indicator lights which are down lower on the bumper bar. I would think that you could add extra rear lights to compliment the originals (eg: by putting a set on each side of the rear of a permanently-mounted roof rack) without causing any problems with the authorities.
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Follow Up By: Member - David 0- Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:54

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:54
I know that would make sense, but according to Nissan, the reason those lights are not hooked up, is becasue they don;t comply with ADR. Perhaps lights on a bar on the roof do comply with ADR.
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:58

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:58
Just seems strange to me, cos take the 90 series Prado for example; they do still have the original taillights in place and functional, even though the ADRs deemed that they must also fit bumper bar mounted tail lights etc. The Prado has a must better-presented rear lighting system in my opinion.
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Reply By: cokeaddict - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:48

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:48
Corey,
Cant help you locate a place in Melbourne sorry but food for thought....

If u can get ur hands on an early GQ tail lights (1988 mod) and mark the pattern of the cut out, with a very fine hobby drill kit 12 volt, it is possible to router the shape out so that you can fit the globe sockets & wiring harness into ur existing lights I did this on a GQ long ago, worked great Im assuming the GU's have a flat back where the sockets would twist in.
Just make sure u do the correct ones, as the reverse socket has a different pattern from memory.
Ange
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:56

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 16:56
Good idea Ange,
But what about using the cut-out on the back of the bumper-bar taillights as the template instead of trying to find an old GQ?
I know on mine the holes are the same size, as I have managed to put them in the wrong hole one time after having them apart...hahaha
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:05

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:05
Hi Roachie,
yes mate same thing, I didnt think of it sorry. It was a while ago and i didnt have bar lights to use.

As for your comment about the Prado, As far as i know, it is NOT illegal to have them working as long as the bumper bar ones are still doing their job. At least thats what i was told.

Hope ur all well down there Roachie. take care

Ange
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Reply By: kesh - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:42

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:42
But Corey, had you bought a Disco last year instead of this thing with "dummy" lighting there would be no requirements to do actually anything except get out use it and revel in its capabilities.
Of course, had it been a 4.2 Nissan, then overheating woes would have set in, a far greater concern. Those things boil more than the old Roseberry engine on the shearing plant.
OK, just having a cheap shot at people supporting the worst industry afloat, "scientific whale harvesting".
No more Jap for me, Norwegian either.
kesh
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Reply By: RosscoH - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:49

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 17:49
Hi Corey,
Check out 4x4 accessories on Ebay, There was a bloke selling the Dummy Light Upgrade for GU Patrols. If he hasn't got any on there at the moment you may be able to put a wanted ad on there and he might reply, I was going to upgrade mine and I only Deleted his email address from my computer about 2 days ago because I decided it wasn't worth the money. Hope this helps you.
Cheers RosscoH
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Reply By: nrb1748 - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 18:31

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 18:31
There is a problem in connecting the dummy lights on the latest GU compared to the previous model.

The previous GU3 had red, clear for reverse and clear for turn signal using an amber globe. Therefore it is possible to fit globe holders and get them working.

The latest GU does not have a clear lens for the turn signal part of the light - it is red. The light is only red and clear. Therefore it is not possible to get the turn signal working in amber using the standard light. The brake, tail and reverse lights would be OK.

Larger Nissan dealers stock the 'Arab spec' lights for the latest GU. They are about $400 (not fitted).
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Follow Up By: cokeaddict - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 12:35

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 12:35
You dont have to connect ALL the lights, You can just connect STOP / PARK lights just to give the idiot behind you a better chance to see you are stopping. Blinkers are seen from behind always (if he's looking that is). Reverse..well ya can hook them up too. Remember, its a VISUAL thing for the guy behind you, its not to pretty up ur toy, although we all like to mingle with things.

Ange
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Follow Up By: Chaz - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 16:50

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 16:50
nrb1748,
The red lens inside the indicator is removable after you open up the light assembly, then you are left with a clear rear turn signal.
The biggest problem with connecting up the tail lights is that you will blow the hazzard light fuse and possibly indicator and brake lamp fuses when you hook up the trailer. You can upgrade the fuse ratings, but I found going to LED globes solves this problem.

Chaz
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Reply By: scottcamp - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 19:41

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 19:41
Hi All,

Does any one have a part number for the Arab spec lights? Do these lights come with the additional wires for connecting them?

We do not have the ADR in the UK and we have the dummy lights, seems more a cost cutting exercise to me. Also noticed a Terrano(do not know what you call it) yesterday and it had the bumper lights and the upper light working so it is standard in the model below, crazy)

Scott
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Reply By: Dave(NSW) - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 19:51

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 19:51
I fitted Arabian lights two my 2002 GU all wiring is on left hand side but had to rewire over to right hand side. Hope this helps Dave
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Reply By: Member - Corey K (VIC) - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 22:19

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 22:19
Thanks everybody for the feedback.

Regards,

Corey
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Reply By: scottcamp - Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 23:38

Friday, Jan 13, 2006 at 23:38
I guess it would be better to use the Jap tail lights to solve the wiring issue. Does anyone know the Jap part numbers for the 2005 Patrol? If not where would you go to find out the part number?

Thanks

Scott
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Reply By: Patrick - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:44

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 03:44
Nissan have an optional replacement rear lights as a Factory Part to replace the Dummy lights in the rear quarter Panels of all Series III and Series IV GU Patrols.

The Original Lights only have the single passenger side reverse light working. The Replacement lights include all the globes and globe holders to enable the indicator, tail, stop and reverse lights to work.

These Lights are available from Nissan Dealerships, in particular Ferntree Gully Nissan and Blackburn Nissan in Victoria both stock these lights.
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Follow Up By: scottcamp - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:52

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 05:52
Hi Patrick,
Thanks for the advice, but i am from the UK and when i contacted Nissan they knew nothing about them. If i got a part number i should be able to order them. Failing that i could phone Nissan australia and order them.

Thanks
Scott
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Follow Up By: scottcamp - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 06:16

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 06:16
Forgot to ask, do the replacement lights have orange indicator lenses? The ones on my 05 patrol have red covers.
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Reply By: Chaz - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 08:35

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 08:35
Hi Corey,
If you check out post #26052 you may get a better idea of what is involved.
4x4trecker has done it to his GU IV and like me is now using LED bulbs with excellent results.

Chaz
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 18:05

Saturday, Jan 14, 2006 at 18:05
Have a search of the sites, its been asked, and done before.

But I still dont understand why people do it, better things to spend $400 on
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